Before you get your panties in a bunch, please realize that its just a concept aircraft. Anyone can produce a cool rendering for a potential aircraft using even the most rudimentary CAD software package. IOW, it's nowhere near production.
More to the point, the conceptual design of a UAV (i.e. planform geometry, engine sizing, etc.) is but the tip of the development iceberg and isn't all that relevant to the real challenges preventing the wide-scale deployment and use of UAVs. Rather, its the control system design (lower level flight controls for the more radical designs, and the higher level autonomy systems for all of the designs), surveillance package/capability and regulatory hurdles that are the main challenges requiring further development.
@quantumbits: Seriously? You're talking about a country where uneducated farmers are building helicopters and subs. This is like awalk in the park for their trained designers. They drew this concept while taking a nap one afternoon. #china
@Kaiser-Machead: It's one of those arbitarily-defined ends of cyclical time periods (IE: Friday) where things like that escape from the clutches of my thinkpan without filters. I doubt that'll be the last one of the day. I'll endeavor to make the subsequent ones a bit more artful. #china
This doesnt look practical. UAV's are designed to fly and coast... staying airborn for several hours (sometimes over 50). This is a jet... This will suck fuel up like nothing.
What is a purpose of a fast UAV? Unless it is in a dog fight, I just dont see the point. #china
@MrBlahBlah: It can pull g-forces far greater than any manned aircraft. So, if there were a dogfight, this could potentially have superior maneuverability. #china
I work on the Predator program (which also includes the Reaper) and I can tell you that there's no way the Reaper would have continued it's "mission to target enemies on the ground" without operator input. It is not a fully autonomous aircraft. It can follow an "Operational Mission" which only includes where to fly, at what altitude, and at what speed. All other operations are performed by humans.
When the plane goes "lost link" (losses contact with the pilot) it follows what is known as an "Emergency Mission" which is merely a pathway back to base marked by a series of checkpoints. If the aircraft regains link, (even for a split second) it goes back to flying it's operational mission until it losses link again. Once it losses link again it'll start the emergency mission over again (if it hadn't been updated since it last regained link) starting back at checkpoint number one.
There's a good chance that it had gone lost link, started it's emergency mission and started heading home and then at some point regained link for a moment and then lost it again, thus causing it to turn around and start the emergency mission once again. This is usually a bad scenario because having had to restart it's emergency mission it may not have had enough fuel to complete the emergency mission a second time before making it back to base, thus an imminent crash was coming. The Air Force would rather shoot the plane down (thus destroying all the equipment on the plane) than let it crash and be retrieved by the Afghanistan government or military. The technology is valuable and one that sets the U.S. above all others in military warfare, it must be protected.
@Coolmodo: Correct, it would just fly until it ran out of gas. The problem is if it was armed. Then there would be unexploded ordinance at the crash site, which depending on where it crashed could be used for ieds.
@ shenanigans61 I'm an exUSAF airman who worked with support personnel for the Predator. The UAV's do not replace a pilot, seeing as how an actual Commissioned Officer Pilot flies them. However, they were considering training Enlisted personal E-5 or higher to pilot them. Either way. SOMEONE is always piloting them. The benefit is that it remove the multi-billion dollar aircraft from the sky, as well as the pilot out of harms way. There should always be a place for manned aircraft, if anything as a last measure for the impending robot apocalypse. But with all seriousness, at our current deployed level of technology, a UAV still cannot perform all of the complex tasks and maneuvers of say an F-22. And in the event we have to go against a hostile Air Power, I still think Manned Aircraft would be more suited for certain tasks. That's my opinion anyway.
Calling these Drones is very wrong. the only thing they can do by themselves is fly home....and only if ive told them how to get there. they are the same as every other plane, the only difference is the pilot sits somewhere else, i still control everyting the plane does.
@Bombear: they are the same as every other plane, the only difference is the pilot sits somewhere else
You do realize that's the DEFINITION of what a drone is, right? I mean... The ACTUAL DEFINITION. From the DICTIONARY. It's a book you really should become familiar with.
1. A male bee, especially a honeybee, that is characteristically stingless, performs no work, and produces no honey. Its only function is to mate with the queen bee.
nope. I don't think that's the definition of a drone. These drones provide a very harsh sting and perform quite a bit of work. Although I suppose it's true that they produce zero honey.
@psychiccheese: Normally I'm all over dictionary issues. I mean there are several on my desk, just waiting to be grabbed when someone is wrong on the internet, but you just made me laugh. Thank you. It's a great start to the morning.
I see you quoted "pilots" through the article. All MQ-9 pilots have gone through Air Force flight school. Most have flown manned aircraft prior to flying the Reaper or Predator.Most of them have flown fighter aircraft. Weapon launch commands are given by the pilot like any other aircraft. The aircraft needs both the pilot and sensor operator working together to engage a target.
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More to the point, the conceptual design of a UAV (i.e. planform geometry, engine sizing, etc.) is but the tip of the development iceberg and isn't all that relevant to the real challenges preventing the wide-scale deployment and use of UAVs. Rather, its the control system design (lower level flight controls for the more radical designs, and the higher level autonomy systems for all of the designs), surveillance package/capability and regulatory hurdles that are the main challenges requiring further development.
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A former UAV flight control engineer. #china
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When the plane goes "lost link" (losses contact with the pilot) it follows what is known as an "Emergency Mission" which is merely a pathway back to base marked by a series of checkpoints. If the aircraft regains link, (even for a split second) it goes back to flying it's operational mission until it losses link again. Once it losses link again it'll start the emergency mission over again (if it hadn't been updated since it last regained link) starting back at checkpoint number one.
There's a good chance that it had gone lost link, started it's emergency mission and started heading home and then at some point regained link for a moment and then lost it again, thus causing it to turn around and start the emergency mission once again. This is usually a bad scenario because having had to restart it's emergency mission it may not have had enough fuel to complete the emergency mission a second time before making it back to base, thus an imminent crash was coming. The Air Force would rather shoot the plane down (thus destroying all the equipment on the plane) than let it crash and be retrieved by the Afghanistan government or military. The technology is valuable and one that sets the U.S. above all others in military warfare, it must be protected.
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I am panicking!!
What will happen when it starts fighting back?
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I mean this thing is not designed to autonomously select and attack targets right?
Without a human operator it's just a nice RC gadget that can autonomously maintain altitude and fly back home, sometimes?
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You do realize that's the DEFINITION of what a drone is, right? I mean... The ACTUAL DEFINITION. From the DICTIONARY. It's a book you really should become familiar with.
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1. A male bee, especially a honeybee, that is characteristically stingless, performs no work, and produces no honey. Its only function is to mate with the queen bee.
nope. I don't think that's the definition of a drone. These drones provide a very harsh sting and perform quite a bit of work. Although I suppose it's true that they produce zero honey.
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