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    Image of TonyWonder TonyWonder
    12/04/09

    In reply to Steve Jobs Helped Negroponte With the OLPC Laptop
    I don't seem to remember him mentioning this during his spot on 60 Minutes...
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    Image of Segador Segador
    12/04/09

    In reply to Steve Jobs Helped Negroponte With the OLPC Laptop
    "he said you can't build it for a hundred dollars, and my answer was oh yes I can."

    Clown nose?
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    12/04/09

    In reply to Steve Jobs Helped Negroponte With the OLPC Laptop
    Well, of course Steve Jobs is going to promote the healthy development of children in poor countries. Which other population do you think he will use to farm for organs as he ages? Plus, if theres one thing more rejuvenating than the blood of virgins, it's the blood of orphans.
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    Image of trevisol trevisol
    12/04/09

    In reply to Steve Jobs Helped Negroponte With the OLPC Laptop
    I didn't know Charles Grodin was the head of OLPC. . . .
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    Curves promoted this comment trevisol was starred trevisol was unstarred
    Image of Curves Curves
    12/04/09

    @trevisol: Just his hair.
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    Image of SigmundTheSeaMonster SigmundTheSeaMonster
    12/04/09

    @Curves: Charles Grodin's Hair® approves this comment
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    12/04/09

    @trevisol: I don't know. That guy looks like the Grynch physically manifested in real life.
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    Image of ID Ron Burgundy ID Ron Burgundy
    12/03/09

    In reply to Steve Jobs Composed of Tinier Steve Jobs, Just the Way He Likes It
    The picture is alright, but I really just came here to say that I love the word embiggen. I know we've gone through this before, but what is that referencing? Was it a tv show? I'm so lost.
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    Image of HighOctaneX HighOctaneX
    12/03/09

    @Identity (Metric):
    Simpsons Did It.
    [en.wikipedia.org]
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    Identity (Metric) promoted this comment HighOctaneX was starred HighOctaneX was unstarred
    Image of ID Ron Burgundy ID Ron Burgundy
    12/04/09

    @HighOctaneX: Thank you!
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    12/03/09

    In reply to Steve Jobs Composed of Tinier Steve Jobs, Just the Way He Likes It
    The epitome of self portait.

    He is truly a self-made man.
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    Image of Curves Curves
    12/03/09

    In reply to Steve Jobs Composed of Tinier Steve Jobs, Just the Way He Likes It
    Love or hate him, he doesnt care, so long as you dont EVER stop talking about him.
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    Image of redman042 redman042
    12/02/09

    In reply to Steve Jobs Approves Knocking Live Video App Personally
    I grabbed this app immediately, before it's not free anymore or before AT&T throws such a fit that Apple pulls it. I know the app is buggy and the servers overloaded right now but I don't care. I'm sure they will get it to work soon enough, and then it will be tons and tons of awesome. Visit the company's website - they are serious about this tech. Think about it: true video chat on the iPhone!!! We all wanted this for bloody ages. I know we don't have a front facing cam but I will take this over nothing in a heartbeat.

    What a surprise to log onto Giz this morning and find out about this app. This is the last thing I expected Apple to approve. I'm still trying to figure out why.
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    Image of James Marino James Marino
    12/02/09

    In reply to Steve Jobs Approves Knocking Live Video App Personally
    "Okay I'll stick it in the App Store. Not that big of a deal.

    Steve
    Sent from my iPhone"
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    BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2 promoted this comment James Marino was starred James Marino was unstarred
    Image of Segador Segador
    12/02/09

    In reply to Steve Jobs Approves Knocking Live Video App Personally
    The level of influence that one man wields at that company is beautiful and terrifying. It's rare and heartening that a CEO takes this much personal interest in the small, daily goings on at the bottom.
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    Edited by Segador at 12/02/09 9:18 AM Segador was starred Segador was unstarred
    Image of mmmiles mmmiles
    12/02/09

    @Segador: Well when a small daily going on can multiply into 10 million product sales and new useability for millions of users, it pays to keep your eyes on some details. Literally pays.
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    Image of MePerson MePerson
    12/01/09

    In reply to Steve Ballmer Rendered in BSODs
    Created this using 60 random images found using Google Image Search, and assembled using AndreaMosaic. #apple #mosaic #stevejobs
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    Edited by MePerson at 12/01/09 10:37 PM MePerson was starred MePerson was unstarred
    Image of MePerson MePerson
    12/01/09

    @MePerson: Oops, the image got lost in the edit.
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    Image of Odin Odin
    12/02/09

    @MePerson:
    Also you messed up the link from imageshack so it's still lost. =P
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    Image of Die Fledermaus Die Fledermaus
    11/30/09

    In reply to An Apple Without Steve Jobs (It Almost Happened)
    We always hear about Steve Jobs did this Steve did that. Granted his vision for products can be amazing but it is the staff at Apple that takes that kernel of an idea and fleshes it out., then hope and prays Steve likes it.
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    Image of Deep77 Deep77
    11/27/09

    In reply to An Apple Without Steve Jobs (It Almost Happened)
    aThingOrTwo: dude, i appreciate ur comments but where do u get so much time to write an essay on how good mac is. It was just a comment. Chillllllllll!!!!
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    Image of aThingOrTwo aThingOrTwo
    11/28/09

    @Deep77: Your comprehension is fantastic, none of my points were about "how good my Mac is" I don't even say if I own a Mac.

    Dude.
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    Image of willyolio willyolio
    11/27/09

    In reply to An Apple Without Steve Jobs (It Almost Happened)
    and they very probably wouldn't be nearly as successful. i know everyone loves turtlenecked old guys who say "boom" on stage, but there's also a legitimate reason they've gained back some market share from PCs. apple's OSes all totally sucked until OSX.
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    aThingOrTwo promoted this comment Edited by willyolio at 11/27/09 5:48 PM willyolio was starred willyolio was unstarred
    Image of aThingOrTwo aThingOrTwo
    11/27/09

    @willyolio: You should really read this:
    [folklore.org]

    If you take more a holistic view of the operating system (rather than focussing on specific things like memory management or Kernel performance, both of which were far from advanced on the Mac) then there were many ways in which Mac didn't "totally suck".

    Comparatively to other systems, until the late 90's/early 00's the Mac held its own. Of course you could use UNIX or Linux, but they were hardly user friendly. DOS based versions of Windows weren't that much more reliable either. You had far better chance of getting a USB device working correctly with a Mac in the early days of USB. Windows 2000 and XP using the NT Kernel were undisputedly more reliable than Mac OS 9, but XP and OS X launched in the same year.

    Mac OS introduced many concepts and ideas that GUIs still use today (overlapping windows, drop down menus, multiple views of the same filesystem (list, icon etc.) drag and drop file management, control panels, desk accessories or widgets etc.). It also made localised software really easy and was sophisticated enough to know type file was without needing an extension (not practical now for interoperability, but better for users).

    "Niche" things like handling font management, consistent colour management were handled better on the Mac than comparative systems.

    It might make a funny, throw away comment, but the reason you got such a long reply is that this "it sucked" attitude seems to occur a lot in tech circles ("Vista sucked") because people compare old technology to what we have now. Instead the old technology should be placed in context of what was around it at the time along with what it lead to…

    For example (crude):
    C# was inspired by Java, which was inspired by elements Objective-C, which was influence by Smalltalk from Xerox Parc.

    Now with Visual Studio 2010 and C# .NET you can do some amazing things… so this means small talk sucks… right?

    So when you champion Ubuntu or Windows or another system, remember many of the things you take for granted were given a helping hand by both the Mac, NeXTSTEP, Xerox and countless other companies, some of which are now defunct.

    You just might not realise it.
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    Edited by aThingOrTwo at 11/27/09 6:46 PM aThingOrTwo was starred aThingOrTwo was unstarred
    Image of ctthoqqua ctthoqqua
    11/27/09

    @aThingOrTwo: From someone who was present and "professionally" (yeah, I know) compared the Mac OS to its contemporaries, it did suck. (Disclaimer: I was a UNIX enthusiast who worked for NeXT)

    Pre-OS X, Apple had the same issues that Microsoft had today-- it was not possible to advance the state of the art within the Mac OS and maintain backward compatibility. It was a cooperative (not preemptive) multitasker where an errant app brought the house down, the OS provided poor memory management, and its system folder held an absolute zoo of ugly and questionable extensions-- kludges on kludges that were the primary way of extending the Mac OS' functionality.

    The Mac OS of the 80s and 90s was only notable for its aesthetics and user-facing (NOT administrator-facing) technologies. Under the hood it was absolute garbage, with no possible future.

    My $0.02, of course.
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    Image of ludwigk ludwigk
    11/28/09

    @willyolio: The way in which early versions of Mac OS were good is that they were very focused on the user experience, both in terms of the UI and design, but also in terms of lower-level behavior which would "defer to the user" to make a more responsive and intuitive experience (at the cost of performance, and bringing the system to a pause if you depressed the mouse button).

    The last few revisions of classic mac os had a well-deserved reputation of being technically deficient, but philosophically it was in the right place, and I think that that has been paramount in distinguishing MacOSX from other modern OSes.
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    Image of Jack_Burton Jack_Burton
    11/29/09

    @ctthoqqua: As someone who had to support Windows 98 and Nt 4, NeXTStep/OpenStep on PCs, IRIX on SGIs, Novell on PCs, Mac OS on Apples concurrently - I agree wholeheartedly. More than Win2k/2kServer was a leap forward for Windows, OS X was just what Apple needed.

    Also, I loved that I could use *NIX apps like Gnutar in NeXT and have 10 shell instances of FTP or Gzip running, while still using the rich GUI to quickly navigate a huge filesystem. Squeezing that kind of productivity/efficiency out of NT4 was well-nigh impossible - excepting custom Perl and Python scripts. And trying to use 3rd-party apps on IRIX was pretty hit-or-miss (and miss could be really expensive).

    NeXT really was ahead of it's time, and it made perfect sense to me that Apple would fold it into its' next-gen OS.
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    Image of Gordonium Gordonium
    11/21/09

    In reply to Steve Jobs Responds to Passionate App Developer, Curtly
    Hahahahaha, nice.

    I'm no Apple fanboy by any means, but I do appreciate a good dose of sass from a guy that's quite literally changed the course of human history. Or even just a highly successful person who hasn't so much changed history.

    +10, Steve.
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