Today Pioneer is revealing its official 2008 Kuro TV lineup for the US. As we expected from European announcements, it includes second-generation Kuro plasmas—thinner, with five-times-deeper black levels than the first critically acclaimed Kuro plasma—and a Kuro-branded LCOS projector originally developed by JVC. What's missing here are the smaller-sized Kuro LCDs that Pioneer is offering European flat-panel shoppers. Here's the full product rundown, plus the reason for the missing LCD piece of the puzzle:
More Kuro Than Kuro
On the plasma front, Pioneer's new Kuros fit midway on the contrast gamut between the previous generation and the "Extreme Contrast" panel shown at CES. The five-times-deeper blacks don't show up on the brightly lit sales floor as well as they do in a dimly lit home, but Pioneer's Russ Johnson says they will blow away videophiles, particularly with respect to color purity and gradations of shadow. The idea is that you will see more without colors being blown out, and without "hotspots" that make whites too bright. There will be two 1080p plasma TVs out next month, the 50" PDP-5020FD for $4,000 and the 60" PDP-6020FD for $5,500. They're both about 20% thinner than the previous Kuro models, now measuring 3.7" thick. Besides the features that it shares with the previous generation, these Kuros have a new remote control and new HD GUI for better ease-of-use. We're also told they have some networking capabilities—Home Media Gallery plus DLNA compatibility with PCs and other network devices. More on that when we check them out.
In the Elite line, Pioneer is rolling out souped-up versions of the above TVs at $1,000 premiums—the 50" PRO-111FD and 60" PRO-151FD. The bigger news from a gadget perspective is that there will be two plasma monitors that are even thinner. They will be 50% as thick as the original Kuro, measuring just 2.5". As monitors, there have no ATSC tuners or speakers, but they will be highly customizable thanks to some serious connectivity and remote access tools. It's a rich man's product, for sure, but worth knowing it's hitting the market, since the tech will eventually trickle down.
That Projector Rings a Bell
As for the KRF-9000FD projector that snuck out at the European launch, some were smart enough to spot it as a re-branded JVC RS2 or HD100, the two so similar they're referred to as "twins". Johnson tells us that the company chose the LCOS projector because its performance was "consistent with the deep black levels" of the Kuro line. Pioneer added some tuning options to jive with Kuro deep-black benchmarks, but at this time the company did not do too much to make it a product distinct from JVC's. It will be branded simply as the Pioneer Elite Kuro Projector, and it will sell for $9,000, as early as June via the Elite dealer network.
Why No LCDs???
Johnson was good enough to shed some light on the missing LCDs. It turns out, Pioneer Europe has a different LCD supplier than Pioneer USA. Pioneer's European supplier—Philips?—has Pioneer's global LCD partner—Sharp—supplies different product to Europe than it does to the US. Sharp supplies 1080p LCDs in 32", 37" and 46" sizes with 100Hz frame mode to Pioneer Europe, but can't bring them to the US—even for itself. Of course in the US, it would be 120Hz, not 100Hz, a PAL spec. Those are the baseline requirements for Pioneer to work its Kuro magic. These requirements can't be met by the US LCD affiliate, says Johnson, "not even in their own line-up", but he does expect them to come eventually. Since Philips is no longer in the US TV biz, and since Sharp appears to be Pioneer's other LCD partner, I guess we'll have to wait until Sharp catches up.
That Kuro Secret Sauce
All this hullabaloo about Pioneer quitting panel manufacturing and instead buying panels from Panasonic made us ask Johnson exactly how Kuro will stay alive, and he surprised us with some factoids:
• The second-gen Kuros gets the 5X deeper black with the same panel, plus better filtering and video processing.
• Even the "Extreme Contrast" CES panel, the one that freaked us out, was based on "current glass," and not some futuristic laboratory panel. "It's how you fire the pixel," says Johnson. We don't know exactly what that means, but it's strangely reassuring. [Pioneer USA]












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Gizmodo keep up th good work with the funny pics/captions/photochops. Theyre almost as pleasant to see as the actual news article.
nice, but what about burn in? does it still apply to the Kuros?
@G_Money: Agreed. The only times i get a good laugh at work are the picture captions/photochops.
Now if i just had 1000 friends to chip in $5, i could own one...
when will they just throw down the gauntlet and start a ad. camp. that just states "Bigger. Blacker." and then have Chris Boykin from Rob and Big there with his arms crossed looking tuff. Honestly now. That would be PERFECT.
The non-elite 50 and 60 inch screens are $1000 cheaper than the current generation they are replacing. I wonder if that has to do with Sony dropping their Plasma prices as of this May?
I hope they keep it up. The 60 inch extreme contrast model next year at $4500 MSRP would be glorious.
I believe the phrase I'm looking for is...
"None More Black"
I still they need to do some sort of Spinal Tap tie-in.
As for what "how you fire the pixel" means, their "secret sauce" is apparently in the row and column driver circuitry. Most panels can't turn each pixel completely off, and it's especially hard to hit the off state exactly when the previous pixel on a scan line has full luminance. It's equivalent to making a stereo amp that can crank out crazy bandwidth and power but has no hiss when the input is quiet.
$4000 for a TV is just crazy.
nothing has changed from the HD100 to their Kuro Projector. Its a JVC w/ a Pioneer badge...for $1000 more
@Lester56: Well start your own company and sell TV's at what you think they should be worth. I'm sure you'll get a lot of customers on your way to Chapter 11.
How much heavier is this compared to LCD? Also, how much MORE power will this consume compared to LCD?
It's like, how much more black could this be? and the answer is none. None more black.
What about the phosphour lag, I'd rather they fix that than increase blacks.
How black is too black I say? It's not the black I worry about so much as the vividness of the non-black. darker blacks can only do so much to contrast that. Besides I'm happy with my LCD until OLED permeates the market. At which time I only need to worry about my organic television gaining consciousness and attempting a revolt on my living room.
@mikecoscia: racist!
More Blacker
Blackity black blacker than black black, they're blacker than black, yo.
+ Watch video
@lordargent:
ok i cant watch that video here at work but please tell me that's a clip from CB4.
@mikecoscia: I have the previous current generation 60" kuro and I've never noticed phosphor lag -- if it is there it's certainly a lot less distracting than motion blur on LCDs.
More blacker ... and more darker. Uncle Ruckus, anyone?
@G_Money
I do like the photochops but... I thought "More Blacker" was silly and playing it safe. Why not go for the obvious jokes ... blacker than a million pixel march... or something like that?
"It's how you fire the pixel" comment by Pioneer's Russ Johnson in the post above refers to Pioneer's success in improving black levels by lowering the priming charge (required for quick response times) to phosphor cells and thereby reducing it's graying/lightening effect.
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