I had the fortune of being able to visit both Microsoft's Redmond Campus and Apple's Cupertino's offices within the same week. So, I thought I'd do a little comparison as to how a visitor perceives and experiences the respective headquarters. Both campuses have those generic looking tech worker buildings with large mirrored glass faces and grey/beige walls. But both have vastly different signage, transportation systems and designs. Take this for what you will, and if you want, draw comparisons between company philosophies and geography. But before we get started, I gotta say that I honestly got lost at Microsoft. For an hour.
Before we start, know that this is not all Microsoft's fault. I gave the cabbie the wrong address at one point, and this was my first time on campus. Had I arrived on schedule, the night before, I could have gotten a lift by Microsoft shuttle to my final destination, too. Also, Microsoft's beautiful redmond HQ is gorgeous and sprawling and a testament to the company's size and power, so it is also a lot more territory to cover. And the people? They were so nice and ultimately the key to me finding my path again. But there are a few things I know they could do a lot better. I got lost on my own accord, but finding my way back to the right place was a user experience nightmare.
The driver who took me from the airport dropped me off at building 32 instead of 99. That was my error. Getting back on course was really hard, though. When I got to building 32, I was confronted with a few very confusing things. First of all the road signs for each building are very very small. And each building itself is only labeled by a building number and street address which are impossible to read from a car. Too small, and low contrast to the windows.
I got to the door and it was labelled push/pull. Confused? Actually, the signs were both in etched glass, and even though one was reversed and on the other side, my brain read both and farted before I tried both ways and got inside.
The receptionist called my contact person and had me sign in. I left out my contact person's name on the sheet and she made me fill it out again. Fine. Then I heard the guy next to me signing in with the second receptionist. (Yes, two at one station.) He registered yesterday, but the lady said the system wipes all visitor records after a day. He had to fill out his form a second time. Dumb.
Just then, an alarm went off. Instead of a normal hall, this particular building had pretty blue gates, as in a modern subway. One person went in right after another without swiping his own badge, and the whole place sounded like a bomb shelter.
Next thing I realize is that I'm at the wrong building. That's my fault. So I talk to the receptionist and she says a shuttle number 755 should be coming to drive me over. And makes me do a sign out. I get outside, and the bus comes. And drives right by me and one other Microsofty trying to get a ride.
Turns out the geeky developer who missed the bus happened to be going to the same place. She was late too. "Look, if I don't get some help, I am going to get lost again. Mind if I just follow you?"
Five minutes later, we caught the next shuttle, and made a path through campus. But honestly, every building looked the same and the roads were winding through these beautifully manicured gardens with tall pine trees. The signs to buildings on the side of the road are small and the signs on the buildings themselves are white font on mirrored/glass windows. And small so you can't read them from a car on the curb. If the developer didn't tell me where to get off, I'd have been lost.
But one hour from my initial drop off, I got to the right building. And when I got to the Conference Center I went into the front door and asked to register at Techfest 2008 as a member of the press.
Then the receptionist here told me I had to go outside, take a right turn and go to the doors on the side of the building. The first two doors were locked, but the third opened.
I guess it was my lucky day.
Two days later, I found myself at Apple's Cupertino Campus. Now, I've been here, before, but I've also never been lost. Why? Four reasons: The signs are frigging huge for each of the buildings, and the parking lot is always right next to whatever building you are trying to get to, there's always a person to direct you around to the right place, and most obviously, Apple Campus is built on a ring (hence the name Infinite Loop). If you get lost on a ring, you are an idiot.
Now this might come as a bit of unfair bashing, but this was just one person's experience. It's not meant to be anything but that. If you're going to draw any conclusions, look at the photos and the maps from Redmond and Cupertino and come up with your own.
UPDATE: Apple's campus extends beyond the infinite loop campus, and is expanding, so its not going to be that easy to get around in the future. Again, this isn't supposed to be science. Read the headline.









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Apple Campus hasn't been the same since they got rid of the pirate flags and the icon garden. I miss Clarus and her "Moof".
I love the Apple campus. I always rack up a $1000 bill at the company store when I visit. Swag is just too good to pass up!
Isn't an infinite loop a bad thing in programming?
come on apple, that's not an real infinite loop...more like in-faux-nite loop
Leopard vs. Vista...let the flaming begin!!
I like the One Infinity Loop sign... The Redmond sign looks like it belongs in the generic Fortune 500 corporate park I work in.
One comment on the Apple campus. Infinite Loop is only a portion of the campus, which has buildings all around the area and also has buildings in other cities in the Valley. Parking lots are still right in front, but I'm not sure how easy it is to get from the loop to some of the other locations. The buildings are named by their street, fortunately, which at least should help somewhat.
@Git Em SteveDave: I miss the Jolly Roger too...
Looks like nerds vs artists. For some reason the Microsoft building sign makes me think of the movie Brazil. I'm not a huge fan of apple, I like the shuffle and that's about it, but they definitely look like they got things ironed out in the campus department.
Certainly a metaphore of the software that is under the hood of Windows and OSX. Anyone trying to navigate the massive code base of Windows would get just as lost.
It just seem to me that Apple are people who like to over spend on clothing. while Microsoft people don't care, and see clothes as clothes, and would go the extra length to save money, like shop at marshals, it fits its purpose. In the end i think, those who over spend on clothes will realize the amount of waste they spent and will eventually switch over to what is cheap and does its purpose, Microsoft.
I've been to the MS campus quite a few time, quite daunting as a first timer there, but not terribly difficult to navigate around.
The campus is just really @#$@ING BIG.
I'm sure the Microsoft campus is probably 20 times bigger so it's going to be a little bit more confusing, but those signs are reaaaallly small.
I think Microsoft hired Konami to create their sign.
What a stupid article...how does the writer find his way around outside the campuses? I guess the combination of GPS/Google Maps/taxi/human directions are simply not enough to avoid being lost for an hour! Perhaps you should stay in your room next time.
im going to make an app with the iPhone SDK that serves as a travel guide/aide when visiting and navigating the MS campus. cruel irony here I come
@Totalfixation: That's the perfect analogy! Some people see clothes as just clothes and some people see clothes as an extension of themselves and are into style. In the end, if you're getting laid, that's all that matters. Mac vs PC, who cares. It's all about the booty.
@ferment78: Sounds like a plan, assholeface. Bye.
Linux campus FTW.
Dudes, this is by no way trying to be scientific. Read the closing sentence. But I did get wickedly lost. And I think the photos tell the story. This isn't science, this is a story of how I see the two campuses.
Wow, nice building layout Apple. Now, can someone show them how to find a full featured Bluetooth profile stack? They seem to have lost it.
@SirNirian: Right on. Metaverse.
@exkon: That is a good point, hopefully highlighted above. The MSFT event I was at was their techfest 2008 session. They're working on some huge ideas there that Apple doesn't have the resource to touch. My favorite was Trident, a set of analysis and visualization tools for oceanographers. Before, visualizations had to be done by hand for each project. Pretty good work.
One more user experience microsoft failed at.
@Brian Lam:
@ferment78:
BANHAMMER'D!!!
@Brian Lam:
But the REAL treat with infinite loop is heading over to BJ's for fresh beer and damn good food.
@Totalfixation:
Sounds like those guys have some crappy taste in clothes. I dunno about you, but I like lookin good.
I want a sizemodo for Redmond, Cupertino, the Pentagon and whatever the name of Google's main base is.
Now BLam, get to it. You're halfway there.
@Brian Lam: LOL
@Totalfixation: Ironic, since their software costs more.
@Oneon1isto:
it's called the googleplex.
I'm shocked that Bill didn't copy Jobs in adding a LARGER loop at Redmond. After all he's clearly seen the better design...
@newgalactic: LOL.
I heard that MS will give an automatic no-hire to candidates that get lost when trying to get to an interview...
Hey Brian,
I used to work at MSFT. The campus can be a little daunting, but if you think of it more like a city than an office park you'll be fine. So just like being in a new city, grab a map and ask the locals!
Almost every building has a receptionist (or 2). Drop in any one and they'll give you a map or call a shuttle to take you where you're going. If you have to change shuttles just tell the driver and they'll sort you out.
Basically, it's easy to navigate once you know how to get a shuttle.
Oh, and the MSFT lingo for the "someone going in without swiping their badge" is "tailgating."
@Brian Lam: hahaha! give him the hammer! I thought it was a great article!
href="#c4593063">IUSEAMACSOSUEME: Exactly..give the man a prize.
@Brian Lam: Get the developer's number?
@moosiest: Thanks man. I didn't want this to be a swipe, half the reason I got lost was my fault. But the signage needs to be revised. Every building has a building code, so they need huge readable signs on each. It's not too much to ask.
Where is building #7?
@dambo29:
Seconded.
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@tamoko: No way! I'm taken, and my girlfriend has wiretapped my brain! (Not that I'd think about it in the first place because that's not right and I'm gonna shut up now...hi honey!)
@Brian Lam: Oh sorry, I wasn't trying to defend the signs or anything. Actually, the receptionist/shuttle thing is really a workaround for the fact that, yeah, it's hard to get around on your own. I'd rather walk through the gorgeous campus (check out the Asian-style garden behind RedWest some day!) but I would totally get lost doing so without help.
Maybe next time go early, wander around the pretty parts, get totally lost, then call a shuttle from wherever you end up to get you back on track :)
This is the stupidest comparison ive ever seen, and heres why:
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Navigating Infinite Loop is like navigating around one building in the Microsoft Campus. Way to point out the obviousness of size, Gizmodo.
The pictures are to scale.
@newgalactic HEAR HEAR! I second that! When Apple, when?..
@Totalfixation:
Did you buy that suit at Marshalls? Also, you, don't, need, to, use, so, many, commas,.
Apple's campus layout is very visitor friendly and easily navigated as long as your destination is on campus (which for media events and visitors it would be). Apple campus has done some building vomiting across the better portion of Cupertino though and finding your way to a specific spot in one of these buildings will get you about as frustrated as Stevie Wonder in an easter egg hunt.
@Brian Lam: LOL. I think every guy who's married/has a girlfriend knows that thought pattern very well.
@diabolusunknown: It's not science. But it's not stupid, either. It's the truth. I addressed your point of scale. Did you read above? No? Read this then.
Let me translate that into something you can comprehend:
Sorry I couldn't write that in crayon.
Now address my issue with your stupid comment: Why are the signs so fucking small if the campus is so big?
Anyone else want some? I'm in a fierce mood.
@moosiest: You're Bill Gates, aren't u.
This reminds me of my experience at the Florida Disney World. The place is so big, yet buildings/structures are very well connected. There are just so many people to ask for directions.
@BLam: C'mon, dude - the Ban Hammer is supposed to be used in it's own article, not in the comment section. Respect the Ban Hammer, son, respect the Ban Hammer.
@moosiest:
"Actually, the receptionist/shuttle thing is really a workaround for the fact that, yeah, it's hard to get around on your own."
MS Campus SP1?
Infinite loop will crash your computer, in this case your brain. Be extremely cautious.
@diabolusunknown: Also, who uses live maps instead of google maps? are you a Microsofty? Loyalty is fine, but disclose, please.
@moosiest: It's cool, no worries. I appreciate the feedback. Good perspective. The shuttles are a great perk.
@BLam:
LOL - I can't take you seriously with that pic of you in a Santa hat... It's like getting yelled at by your boss when he has a piss dribble tracking down his pants.
@nutbastard: Any predictions on the number of comments this time?
@diabolusunknown: how does that explain "First of all the road signs for each building are very very small. And each building itself is only labeled by a building number and street address which are impossible to read from a car. Too small, and low contrast to the windows." or any of the other problems that have nothing to do with the scale of the campuses?
@Brian Lam: ah crap. see the above is what you get when you don't bash the f5 button before posting.
Wow... that size comparison is fascinating.
Even if you factor in Apple's Valley Green, Bandley, De Anza, Mariani, and Bubb buildings, Microsoft still dwarfs them.
Someone start checking around the Apple Campus for five smooth stones :D
Oh, and Apple is building a whole new campus soon... that oughta even things up a little :)
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