Ok Moto, just rollover and die.

they all look like Razr's and Krzr's. The last one looks nice though!

same form factor same UI same POS

Ah they should just remix that damn ringtone and call it quits...

Goodbye Moto... Goodbye Moto...

I've been using my 02 Cocoon for two months now, and the aesthetic kicks the crap out of the iPhone. Seriously, it makes it look like a chunky glass brick. Which esentially it is.

The A1800 isnt half bad either.
Well i had the previous version for a day and i loved it.
Even though i found the screen extremely tiny comparing to my t-mobile wing's not-as-roomy-as-an-iphone's-screen.
I dont want motorola to die tho =\
Whats going to become of nextel without nextel!!!!!!!!!!! ='[
Wow i juss remembered im with t-mo =] ok you can die now lmao!

What the fuck is their major malfunction anyway. They are taking resting on your laurels to a whole new level. And since that laurel was the razr that's not really anything to brag about. It was a nice looking phone at the time, end of story. They need some MAJOR restructuring at the top.

Motorola - the Gateway of the mobile phone market.

@riqgeez: just a shame it's a Samsung that snuck in there by accident ;)


@Pope John Peeps II: ok, I have no great love for the iPhone but frankly your comment is just sad.

this makes me want a Razor, not the phone

@Pope John Peeps II: I can't lie. That is one zexy little phone.

Wouldn't these be a product of the "old" regime? Let's at least give them a couple months to dig their way out of the massive hole they're in. If the next lineup or two are just as horrible then by all means, use your 3G iPhones to shovel whatever dirt you can into the hole and put them out of their misery.

@Pope John Peeps II: Umm...Call me when they're even in the same class of devices. The Cocoon is essentially a music flip-phone, yes?

When will they figure out that their software sucks balls? And that putting the same shitty UI in 20 different form factors doesn't sell more phones.

@OMG! Ponies!: Why bring in the poor defenseless Cow Box?

And to the others, I am in no way an Moto lover, but would point out that if they copied the iPhone, everyone would be all over them for copying it to stay alive.

At least Moto had the balls, or lack of brains, to stay with what they were doing, instead of bandwagoning it.

@Pope John Peeps II: I'm sure since your Cocoon is certainly as brilliant as you pretend that it will take the world by storm and the iPhone will soon be but a distant memory.

Bwa ha ha ha ha!

Thanks for the laugh.

....the U9 isn't what I'd call a leak. Considering it is avliable to buy in the UK right now.
[shop.carphonewarehouse.com]

/me stops being so picky.....

The A810 looks like a Zune phone.
Though at least it doesn't have a patch of smoky translucent plastic slapped on top of it.

"It's somewhat sad when the best of your lineup is a Linux phone"
What? I think most geeks would agree that the best of a lineup should be a Linux phone.

@Pope John Peeps II: It's not glass.

Hey, I want a Linux phone! Especially if it can run ZSNES... who needs a DS or PSP?

They just don't get it. Their problem is the UI.

They just don't get it. The problem is with their UI.

No new form factor? What other form factor do you guys want? Every company whether it's Nokia or Samsung has the same basic 3-4 form factors that you see here. I've never heard anyone complain that all of Samsung's flip phones look alike, which I have to emphasize, they do and that too with ugly color combos. I think Motorola needs a skit on SNL to get the media off of it's back.

No new form factors? What new form factors do you want? Every company has the same basic 3-4 form factors. I never see anyone complaining about how similar the Samsung flip phones look, which I have to emphasize they do and that too with ugly color combos. Maybe Motorola needs a skit on SNL to get the media off of it's back.

@zenpoet:

The problem with iPhone clones (and most phones in general) is that the software sucks. I agree that it is a smart move on Moto's part to not try and copy the iPhone. But they need to make their UI better, or they will continue to fail. Why come out with a bunch of shiny awesome looking devices that don't work? A true iPhone killer could potentially be a whole different form factor, as long as it has an awesome UI and satisfies users.

Palm and Moto should merge. Seems like their management all think alike...

The all look like they're going to be grasy and scratched within a week, and i look after my gadgets like they're my kids.

It's good how decades of gadget abuse have taught mankind not to fall in love with smooth, glossy surfaces any more.

@ecsw: You can say it a third time if you want. Or 6 billion more times (once for every person that thinks the UI is bollocks).

my e1000 got hair o' technician stuck under it's screen. with DNA ID i'll clone him one of these day, a cellar monkey to fix the keys every time these go awry.
fell many times tho from moderate heights still ticking. but the screen, things get under it trough keys.

who says the iphone has "a great new form factor"?

jesus christ motorola.... still pos phones, please burn the sidekick slide ...

@kahri: haha

iRazor? iMoto? isucko? iactually think it it's better than what they havetho!

@ecsw: exactly, I have a Pebl and can't wait for my tmobile contract to expire, the moto's UI, software, and buttons are horrid. Can't wait till June 17th when my tmobile expires, plus, by then the 3G gps 64gb 5mp massaging jesus phone should be out.

Never. Another. Motorola.

@hammertime1994:

I know it's not glass. Don't be an asshole. But it's ugly. It's boring. It's nothing. It's a square shaped screen. WHOOPEE. THAT'S TOTALLY NEW. I've been staring at square shaped screens for my entire life.

At a certain point, the aesthetic of elegant functionality gets pushed so far that it becomes "Seriously? This is it? Maybe you could... y'know... DO something with it"?

@Kaiser-Machead:

It's an amazingly well designed phone. Everything about it is terrific. It's the perfect size, shape and weight for a hand. Despite it's being a flip, it's way more comfortable to slide it into your pocket than every other thinner slide phone I've ever had. THe whole thing folds up into a perfectly smooth oval with an oversized front LED like a 1960's sci-fi gadget. It's just fantastic.

I highly recommend getting one and playing with it. I can tell you, my having a cocoon in Canada generates WAY more interest than my friend's iphone does.

Seeing as how the product line that was "leaked" and soon to be coming out was already on the slate to come out - money invested and all that - makes sense that this batch would not be the first of the retooled products_

"It's somewhat sad when the best of your lineup is a Linux phone,..."

5 Quatloos says this silly comment was intended as troll food.

@shawn_dude:
10 Quatloos says no Gamester will ever see your comment in this dead thread.

@Pope John Peeps II: Actually, the screen is glass. The rest is aluminum and plastic (I think).

And I checked out pics of the O2 Cacoon. Looks like a nice flip phone. If no iPhone existed, I'd consider getting something like that. Unlocked it would probably cost close to an iPhone. Also, how is the iPhone screen square?