NEW YORK, 10:15 AM, WED MAY 14 | 53 POSTS IN THE LAST 24 HOURS | tips@gizmodo.com | SUBMIT A TIP | RSS
UK | FR | NL | IT | DE | SP | JP | AU

BlackBerry 9000 Final Specs, AT&T Exclusive for US Launch

bb9000ss.jpgNot much we don't already know in what BGR is calling the final spec list for the BlackBerry 9000—3G HSDPA in the 850/1900/2100MHz bands, Wi-Fi, GPS and 480x320 LCD, etc.. The big nugget is that AT&T will be the first carrier to launch worldwide, as well have it exclusively in the US. So, T-Mo users are gonna have a bit of a wait The sorta good news for you is that one of the HSDPA bands the 9000 supports, 2100MHz, is one of T-Mobile's two 3G bands (1700MHz is the other), so if you're in an area covered by it, you can grab some 3G goodness on an unlocked phone. Otherwise, and they better get cuddly with EDGE if they're thinking about unlocking. Update: Astute commenters have pointed out that the way T-Mobile splits its 3G bands, you're actually still screwed on 3G here. [BGR]

4:22 PM on Fri May 2 2008
By matt buchanan
12,036 views
25 comments

Comments

  • The screen is kinda tiny, which makes it pointless to have such a high resolution. Why not just 320x240 LED backlit?

  • Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't know if that's entirely true about the frequencies this phone supports and T-Mobile USA using it. You see, T-Mobile uses both 1700 and 2100 mhz for their upload AND download signals in the USA, and it is commonly known as '1700mhz.' It's not as if some areas use 1700 and some use 2100. They are both the same '1700mhz' 3G that T-Mobile has all over the USA. The 2100mhz you see on this phone is the European spec, and does not overlap well with the 2100mhz T-Mobile is using in the US, so I hear.

    In Short, AT&T uses 1900 and 850 for 3G, and T-Mobile uses only 1700mhz. This phone is made for AT&T, Rogers (Canada) and European 3G signals, not T-Mobile's.

  • @daftrok: higher resolution on smaller screen = more viewable real-estate. But you already knew that.

    What I wanna know is why they're blatantly copying Sony's PSP/PS3 background wave thing.

  • Why, oh why, can't Blackberry put a Camera and a GPS receiver on the same phone? That's all I want.

  • @Topcat: yeah...that boggles me mind as well.

    BTW other than GSM Arena, anyone know where I can get some unlocked GSM phone goodness. I'm looking to upgrade my Dash really REALLY soon.

  • Are there two types of 9000 series? I keep reading about this iPhone Killer from bloggers and they say its the 9000.

  • I just might replace this phone with my Curve I have already. Although I may just wait until an iPhone comes out with more storage (possibly later this year?).

  • @dcdttu: you are mostly correct. Basically it works like this for T-Mo:

    1700 UP
    2100 Down

    You need both to be able to use 3G, not one or the other.

    With AT&T this isn't true -- they use up/down on 850 and
    up/down on 1900

    So if you have 3G signal on one, you're good to go.

    The T-Mo way of doing things is similar to the Euro way:

    1900 Up
    2100 Down.

    By splitting the bands, you ramp up the efficiency and don't overload the network.

    So anyway, to recap, there are currently no smartphones, not one, that have been announced with T-Mo 3G (also called AWS Spectrum).

    There are only a couple of craptastic dumbphones on T-Mo's lineup, no data cards, no smarties.

    -olly

  • @dcdttu: No, you're correct, the 2100mhz if the the european version of WCDMA not AWS for the US market

  • It looks like an iPhone.

  • @Marty_MacFly: there you go... I knew you were going to toss the first embers into the flame war...

    LOL

  • I'm sure all 3 people who use T-mobile will care.

  • I knew ATT would get this, and then we'll get the Kickstart not too much after Tmo does. SWEET.

  • And Sprint waits again. Release this shit for ALL the damn carriers.

  • @Brock:

    BlackBerry Curve 8310 has GPS and Camera

    Specs

  • if you did get the bb9000 or what ever its called it would be stupid to unlock for tmobile netowrk anyway no data will work on the device not even edge. if tmobile does not offer the device they wont have a service book for data so you wouldnt even beable to use edge.

  • @Topcat: It is crimson dude, chill like ice. Vanilla that is. :)

  • Comment on BlackBerry 9000 Final Specs, AT @ ollywompus "By splitting the bands, you ramp up the efficiency and don't overload the network." Not so. Regardless or what frequency range you are using for UMTS the channels are all the same "size," 5MHz. How does using 2 5MHz channels, one up one down, provide and advantage when the two channels are in different frequency bands as opposed to using two channels in the 850MHz or 1900MHz bands? You are still using 10MHz of spectrum in total? The only advantages or disadvantages I see that are frequency related are that a pair of channels from the same band have the same propagation characteristics (will travel the same distance and pass through materials in the same way) and that the 850 band has greater building penetration capability and travels farther requiring fewer sites than the 1900 band which is in turn superior in the same regard to the 2100 band.

  • @charger08: I'm using an unlocked Cingular Treo 750 on T-mo's network. I get edge, data and all. They don't offer the Treo that I know of.

  • @showtime775: The treo doesn't use the Blackberry data plan though, nor does it use 'Service Books'.

  • @Brock:

    BB 8310.

  • @Synik103: The 8120 Pearl does too.

    2MP
    GPS
    WIFI



  • a treo is not a blackberry in order for blackberries to work they need things called service books and the carrier gets service books made thru bb of course based on the device. a treo just needs tmobiles internet settings not the same with blackberries.

  • However, BB Data plans are available for Palm Treo's and Symbian mobile devices too, but has nothing to do with RIM directly...

  • @Skorpius: Why should they? The CDMA carriers are obviously small fry for RIM. If you want the latest BB, CDMA isn't the way to go but it has been like that for years. No use griping about it.

Comment on this post

Reply by Email

Login with your username and password below. Or comment on this post via email.