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Adobe Relinquishes Ownership of Photos Uploaded to Photoshop Express

So, one of the big sniggles about Photoshop Express, Adobe's free online photo tweaker and sorta-kinda Flickr clone, is that using the service basically gave full control of your photos to Adobe. No more! They just emailed us that as of April 10, they're only claiming "those limited rights that allow us to operate the service" and they don't "claim ownership of your content and won't sell your images." Score one for internet rights and your mom's Photoshop dalliances. [PS Express Terms of Use]

5:45 PM on Fri Apr 4 2008
By matt buchanan
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  • I uploaded all of my dog's photos, who is the same breed as Adobe Express's "mascot." Adobe, you have my permission to use them for more cute dog pics.

  • Adobe, give me the poligonal lasso tool and the magic wand and we are even!

  • how 'bout we go upload a bunch of copyrighted photos before they switch on the 10th and see how far they get with claiming them as their own and using them at their discretion_

    This would be fun to watch_

  • Oh Hell No!

    I just went and read the "new" ToS_ Doesn't matter - if you add any photo to a PSE Account Adobe has the right to use or pass on to affiliates for their use in anything they wish including promotional materials_

    They can use your content for monetary gains and they don't have to pay you a dime of it_

    If you make your images "Shared" - then anyone who accesses PSE can use your image at their discretion at anytime in any manner they see fit_

    So if you make a photo accessible and then a month later find your photo built into someone's homepage you can't bitch about it_ You can't scream copyright infringement - you really can't even make them take it down_

    But you still own the image !

  • @uberfu: Huh? I thought that was what they just fixed? No?

  • meh. just take your photos with the right settings the first time around and you won't have to edit them!

  • @forrestcook:
    Nice attempt at being whitty, but an ultimate fail.

    This was probably one of the dumbest things I have seen posted. Ever.

  • whitty? did that just top mine? Why is it dumb? If you take your photos with all the right settings the first time around all you need to do is print or upload them... I fail to see how that is dumb.

  • oh nice, Im also a boston owner, photos uploaded. Adobe please "Exploit My Pooch!"

  • @forrestcook:
    The h was a fat finger, not a lack of grammatical skills.

    And to answer your question, Do you REALLY think its that easy to capture a perfect picture every time? If so, why in the world would companies such as Adobe make millions each year selling image editing and restoration programs? Its not all about user error. There are things such as sensor performance, uncontrollable lighting/exposure, lens softness, jpeg artifacting, red eye, etc. that factor into the end result.

    On a second note, theres more to these programs than just fixing "mistakes". There are many ways to enhance an image that can actually add to the overall effect the author wanted, but could not reproduce in cam.

    Let me give you my D300 for a few hours and see how many "perfect" pictures you take.

  • hey! that's what was missing from your first post! content!

    I appreciate what you have to say, and it makes sense. But most photos will come out usable on an "auto" setting, and even better if you know what you're doing with the shutter speed and aperture... If you're in the pursuit of a "perfect" photo, then I don't think this website would be what you'd want to use. After all, Adobe makes all that money on their software because it's great software... with a lot more power (and more of an ability to create that "perfect" photo) than the website.

    It just seems to me that the majority of people who will be using this website for minor edits could preclude the necessity by learning more about their cameras to begin with. The pros out there (you included?) probably have the means to afford a proper install of photoshop so they can edit their ways to a "perfect" photo.

  • oh - and I'd love to borrow your D300... My D70s is aging rather poorly...

  • Ok. At first you seemed to be like half the posting population here...All mouth. But you have proven yourself to be educated on such matters, so I rescind the previous assholiness.

  • Comment on Adobe Relinquishes Ownership of Photos Uploaded to Photoshop Express Not sure where the hullabaloo about image rights sprung up from. Flickr has always claimed the rights to use your photos wherever it pleases. Yahoo! does not claim ownership of Content you submit or make available for inclusion on the Service. However, with respect to Content you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Service, you grant Yahoo! the following worldwide, royalty-free and non-exclusive license(s), as applicable Where is the fuss about that?

  • These terms of service are standard fare for sites that allow you to upload your copyrighted material for others to see. As it were, they need these rights to protect themselves from being sued by person uploading the files. People who upload material worth worrying about, such as artists, to sites such as deviant art already know this. As Gizmodo is not in the business of art it does not surprise me that they do not know this. It also does not surprise me that nobody has done research in to the issue... And further more, I'm not surprised that Adobe's little PR offering has you feeling all good about a 'victory' that was not won, as there was no war in the first place.

  • I think this is is great news! I am glad Adobe listens to their users.

  • @razorx: Very true. The TOS is now just full of explanations noting the rights granted to Adobe are merely for the purposes of providing the service. I guess it's a win for average Joe in that it might help others understand the concepts presented in these agreements.

  • This is why I always limit my photos to low resolution online. If someone wants to steal my images, at least they'll be crappy unprintable ones.

  • Looks like this article--and a comment by ltcmurray on the original article--were cited by Public Knowledge: [www.publicknowledge.org]

  • cool of them to do that
    upload your special photos and share them with the world at photoshop photos

  • photoshop express isnt a very good program.
    I wouldnt waste my time with it.
    photoshop photos

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