@tande04: I don't find it the slightest bit interesting. Does anyone really think that signing the "receipt" is more practical using our fingers instead of a stylus? #ipodtouchpos
@Obee Juan: No and thats kind of the point. Your finger doesn't work for the fine things. Signature, drawing (though some people are doing some great things), characters, other fine movements don't work with a finger. You need some kind of stylus.
Its the same thing for a tablet. A lot of the discussion on the tablet has centered around the what the input was going to be. How the keyboard was going to look, etc. I'm saying I find them including a stylus interesting in that regard. The stylus input was often rejected because its a step back but maybe not. #ipodtouchpos
You have to have a stylus for signatures. You have to have a stylus for handwriting input. If you want a tablet the only way you can make it work is with handwriting input, just that simple. #ipodtouchpos
@tande04: or a software keyboard. or maybe even a slideout hardware keyboard? please apple? please? I would get one then.
but then again this whole conversation is about a gadget whose existence itself has been denied again and again
PS the iPod Touch screen in this POS device has not been modified, but the stylus is special in that it conducts your body's static electricity onto the screen #ipodtouchpos
@RT100: I don't need to know "how" it works I understand "how" it works. Thanks though.
If you follow the arguments on the comments you'd see that the whole stylus thing has been largely discounted because apple is moving past that with the capacitive screen. The capacitive screen doesn't work like the resistive screen does with a stylus.
A software keyboard is pointless on a tablet. A hardware keyboard is beyond pointless on a table (get a netbook at that point). #ipodtouchpos
It looks like the window (no pun intended) has run out on Microsoft using this in an ad to counter the Mac ads. Something like, sure Snow Leopard is nice, but if you've ever bought something from the Apple Store, you've used Windows...
@Canoehead: I'm gonna assume that was sarcasm, or a joke. So I'm gonna laugh in response... hahaha. It was a joke right... you weren't just being a big green slimey troll? #ipodtouchpos
@Michael: Actually its the Fanboys who are the cult - Apple just has poor Chinese peasants make electronics and then sells them for a profit. #ipodtouchpos
@nutbastard: I thought I remember you around Consumerist. Don't you remember the story about the guy that started signing for stuff with little pictures?
Signatures don't really matter period. If you dispute it they're just going to say "well it was signed". Which doesn't really matter either because you'll win the dispute 9 out of 10 times anyways. #ipodtouchpos
I understand not wanting to feature your competitors products but really this seems like such a waste of time and money on Apples part. Mostly because I can't see many companies buying and iPod touch and the addon for it. Mostly because Most Point of Sale terminals already run some version of windows or a custom OS built for the device. Trying to interface something like this would be a pain and would add nothing. #ipodtouchpos
Apple gains quite a bit in this whole deal. The EZPays they've been using are unreliable and slow. An Apple-designed device with custom Apple-designed "Point Of Sales" software should make things go a lot smoother for the whole checkout process. Not only that, but now you've got Apple employees showing off the widening capabilities of an Apple device from right within the transaction. Running POS from off of your own company's device, a PMP by design no less, is pretty impressive if you ask me, especially to the average customer.
also, what do you mean when you say, "Trying to interface something like this would be a pain"? interface what? how? why is it a pain? or did you just mean implement? -anyway, not important.
my point is, I think it actually adds quite a bit to Apple's retail "experience" as they want customers to see it.
edit: after re-reading your comment...
Nobody said anything about Apple trying to sell this to other companies. now your interface comment makes sense to me (as in other companies getting this apple hardware/software to interface with typical windows-based POS terminals - I got it now). Apple's intent here, as I understand it, is simply to use these in their own retail stores.
also, as an interesting note - there are a few mac-saturated POS systems available that actually find pretty good use in a lot of stores. The most Apple-flavored of them all, perhaps, being LightSpeed.
A few instances, I've had these Symbol devices fail to have my transaction go through, and the sales person would have to borrow from another to complete the sale. Of course, I wince a little when one makes a fanboyish "well that's Windows for you" comment. I guess that excuse won't exist when it inevitably happens to some of these. #ipodtouchpos
@Kaiser-Machead: Just remember, when they do crash, and they will at some point, you can't do the easy reset of popping out the battery if the device is locked up. #ipodtouchpos
@brobot: That doesn't always work. That was my point. I'm not hating on the device, as it probably is an upgrade from what they were using before, especially since it's 5 year old tech. My point is that when it does crash, and it will since no device is perfect, you will have to wait for the battery to die if it locks up. #ipodtouchpos
@Aaron Ortega: Good point. But the bigger question is this: Did they somehow mod these to use resistive touch screens? or is it some kind of smart humany-touchy stylus that works with the Touch's capacitive screen? #ipodtouchpos
Seems unnecessary to me. Unless of course they release that whole setup for the public to purchase and to use with at their own stores to ring up customers. That would be interesting. #ipodtouchpos
@gemcosta: They used to have horrible wireless thingies. Now they are using their own product. Seems like an obvious solution, 3 years late. #ipodtouchpos
@gemcosta: I think that would be pretty awesome too. It sucks to always have to make your way to a terminal to complete a sale, doing it on the go would be crazy. #ipodtouchpos
@gemcosta: it seems to be more of an image / marketing move, in my opinion, rather than a necessity. like people have said above, you're buying something from the apple store on a windows device. contradicts their ad campaigns entirely. but if it proves to be a reliable system i don't see why they would not expand it into a new product line. #ipodtouchpos
@gemcosta: Except for the custom sales app, it is all already available for public purchase (that's how Apple got them). And you are welcome to develop custom iPhone apps for your company if you like. #ipodtouchpos
@gemcosta: Not unnecessary at all - When I worked Apple Retail last summer, the EZPay system was HORRIBLE! Those things were super buggy, slow, and highly unreliable. An in-house solution to the problem was perfectly in order here, and will be happily welcomed by Apple store employees worldwide.
...even if it is fat and kinda fugly... #ipodtouchpos
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We've all see the stylus things online but I wonder if apple adopting (maybe even making) one points to bigger things down the road. #ipodtouchpos
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Its the same thing for a tablet. A lot of the discussion on the tablet has centered around the what the input was going to be. How the keyboard was going to look, etc. I'm saying I find them including a stylus interesting in that regard. The stylus input was often rejected because its a step back but maybe not. #ipodtouchpos
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You have to have a stylus for signatures. You have to have a stylus for handwriting input. If you want a tablet the only way you can make it work is with handwriting input, just that simple. #ipodtouchpos
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but then again this whole conversation is about a gadget whose existence itself has been denied again and again
PS the iPod Touch screen in this POS device has not been modified, but the stylus is special in that it conducts your body's static electricity onto the screen #ipodtouchpos
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If you follow the arguments on the comments you'd see that the whole stylus thing has been largely discounted because apple is moving past that with the capacitive screen. The capacitive screen doesn't work like the resistive screen does with a stylus.
A software keyboard is pointless on a tablet. A hardware keyboard is beyond pointless on a table (get a netbook at that point). #ipodtouchpos
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Thanks for playing though. #ipodtouchpos
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Obviously, I'm not Don Draper. #ipodtouchpos
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What did you expect, customers would sign with their fingers? #ipodtouchpos
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Well, actually, there are some Apple fanboys who do demonstrate most of the characteristics of cult followers, but yes it was a joke. #ipodtouchpos
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they NEVER look anything like an actual signature. they prove nothing. #ipodtouchpos
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Signatures don't really matter period. If you dispute it they're just going to say "well it was signed". Which doesn't really matter either because you'll win the dispute 9 out of 10 times anyways. #ipodtouchpos
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:P #ipodtouchpos
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@nutbastard: Seems like a step backwards for apple... circa 1994 Motorola MicroTAC #ipodtouchpos
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Apple gains quite a bit in this whole deal. The EZPays they've been using are unreliable and slow. An Apple-designed device with custom Apple-designed "Point Of Sales" software should make things go a lot smoother for the whole checkout process. Not only that, but now you've got Apple employees showing off the widening capabilities of an Apple device from right within the transaction. Running POS from off of your own company's device, a PMP by design no less, is pretty impressive if you ask me, especially to the average customer.
also, what do you mean when you say, "Trying to interface something like this would be a pain"? interface what? how? why is it a pain? or did you just mean implement? -anyway, not important.
my point is, I think it actually adds quite a bit to Apple's retail "experience" as they want customers to see it.
edit: after re-reading your comment...
Nobody said anything about Apple trying to sell this to other companies. now your interface comment makes sense to me (as in other companies getting this apple hardware/software to interface with typical windows-based POS terminals - I got it now). Apple's intent here, as I understand it, is simply to use these in their own retail stores.
also, as an interesting note - there are a few mac-saturated POS systems available that actually find pretty good use in a lot of stores. The most Apple-flavored of them all, perhaps, being LightSpeed.
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</sarc> #ipodtouchpos
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hey apple, take your own hint. #ipodtouchpos
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sonofa... ok ok fair 'nuff, but like, still. #ipodtouchpos
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How else would you propose we sign our names? #ipodtouchpos
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...even if it is fat and kinda fugly... #ipodtouchpos
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" magnetized iPod bookmark " instead of candy???.
We went for the real thing, not gimmicks.
Last's night's loot....
:) #ipod