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    Image of tnkgrl tnkgrl
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    Forget the Cliq - substitute with the N900 :)

    Incidentally, that's what's in my pockets right now (Pre, Droid, 3GS, N900)...

    Ah the joys of review units!
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    Image of Colin Cassady Colin Cassady
    11/24/09

    @tnkgrl: are you the same tnkgrl from the OQOtalk forums?

    And Amazon has yet to ship my n900 :(
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    Image of cruzer555 cruzer555
    11/24/09

    @tnkgrl: n900? How stinky! The best tmobile phone is an unlocked 3gs
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    Image of tnkgrl tnkgrl
    12:38 AM

    @cruzer555: But the 3GS does not have 3G on T-Mobile US, while the N900 does.
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    Image of tnkgrl tnkgrl
    12:39 AM

    @Colin Cassady: It is me, but mostly I'm here: [tnkgrl.wordpress.com]
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    Image of The Lab The Lab
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    Seeing two Motorola phones in the "best phones" article makes me feel like I'm in a time warp. I'm glad they're back, they make great quality handsets.
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    Image of Mr_Human Mr_Human
    11/24/09

    @The Lab: Hah. Not in my experience. I loved my RAZR back in the day, but it was of poor build quality. Needed replacing several times.
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    The Lab promoted this comment Mr_Human was starred Mr_Human was unstarred
    Image of The Lab The Lab
    11/24/09

    @Mr_Human: Yeah they fell apart, just less frequently than any other phone of that RAZR era. I mean, cast metal hinges, glass screens and laser cut metal keypads. What was made better than that, at the time? Not that Kyocera or LG crap. Possibly Sony Ericsson, they were good. I'd be happy to see them make a comeback as well.
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    I guess I hadn't realized how quickly T-mobile had fallen.

    Used to be there was no question you'd see the G1 on there but now admittedly its a little outdated and t-mobile insists on holding on to it.

    Time to make something happen T-mobile.
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    Image of BroScience BroScience
    11/24/09

    @tande04: it maybe older, but its not outdated. with some tweaks from XDA, it can hold its own against the Cliq.
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    tande04 promoted this comment BroScience was starred BroScience was unstarred
    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/24/09

    @BroScience: No doubt but the fact its not on the list speaks volumes to me.

    What I was really getting at was that the Cliq is a far inferior phone to the G1 in most ways.
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    Edited by tande04 at 11/24/09 11:16 AM tande04 was starred tande04 was unstarred
    Image of Badongadoodle Badongadoodle
    11/24/09

    @tande04: make a list of those inferior ways, please. if you are goint to drop a dump like that - back it up. Ah, and a .2" smaller screen dosnt count.
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    OCEntertainment promoted this comment Badongadoodle was starred Badongadoodle was unstarred
    Image of MarcusMaximus MarcusMaximus
    11/24/09

    @tande04: That's not really true. The Cliq is equal or better than the G1 in every way. The only way I could see an argument for it being lacking is that so far, as far as I've heard, there's been no luck at getting root on it. That's really just a matter of time, though, and it honestly took a while on the G1 as well.
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    11/24/09

    @Badongadoodle: I'll offer some input if you promise to never use the phrase "back up that dump" again. ;-)

    The CLIQ (last I checked) was running Android 1.5, which means it's already a generation behind. It also disqualifies it from the GPS app. Additionally, the MOTOBLUR interface is a questionable advantage at best. From what I've seen, the Facebook/Twitter integration gadgets are less than stellar and only provide a chaotic view of your network.

    I don't think the G1 is head and shoulders above the CLIQ....but I do think it has a little more dignity. If nothing else because it gets the Google Experience branding instead of MOTOBLUR. Sense and Rachael were good improvements on top of Android. I'm less than convinced that MOTOBLUR has such an advantage.
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/24/09

    @Badongadoodle: I'll defer to OCEntertainment here and go further and point out just general build qualities. If Moto put out the best they have with the droid then the cliq is certainly the worst. Every review of motoblur has been less than stellar. The widgets add little but sluggishness. The cliq may have more memory but you lose most of it just with blur (not to mention battery life, which on the g1 has been pretty damn good since 1.6).

    Then there are other advantages that are debatable but often pointed out.
    5 row QWERTY
    Dedicated call keys
    Secondary pointing device

    So the real question would be what does the cliq have that the G1 doesn't?
    5.0 camera which is always a debatable inclusion.

    Really though I wasn't really trying to say that the G1 is out and out better. Regardless of any other argument I'd say that everyone agreed that the G1 was a flagship phone for t-mobile. I'm amazed if anyone could really say the same for the cliq. Hell even t-mobile still pimps the MyTouch more then they market the cliq.
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    Edited by tande04 at 11/24/09 1:50 PM tande04 was starred tande04 was unstarred
    Image of anexanhume anexanhume
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    After having owned an iPhone and now owning a Droid, I'd have to say no to the iphone having the best user interface. If for nothing else than the beautiful shade.
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/24/09

    @anexanhume: I just think its funny that people only say that now that the droid came out.

    Its the same thing its been from the beginning in most ways. Some tweaks here and there. People must love the flat icons.
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    Image of Badongadoodle Badongadoodle
    11/24/09

    @tande04: I dont know where you have been shopping, but how does a user interface differ with flat icons? Oh yeah, it does not.
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    Image of MarcusMaximus MarcusMaximus
    11/24/09

    @anexanhume: As an owner of a G1, I'd agree with you. Also, the fact that the android marketplace isn't ruled over with an iron fist means that we get apps like SNESoid/Gameboid that will never be available on the App Store.
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    OCEntertainment promoted this comment MarcusMaximus was starred MarcusMaximus was unstarred
    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/24/09

    @Badongadoodle: That would be the point but thanks for playing.

    Besides some changes in settings and other backend stuff what is the main difference between 2.0 and 1.6? Flat icons.

    #tips
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    11/24/09

    @MarcusMaximus: Thanks for tipping me off to what will likely be the complete ruination of my productivity forever.

    *downloads Gameboid*
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    Image of Segador Segador
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    But...where's my N-Gage?
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    Image of DustyButt™ DustyButt™
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    This thread is going to become a total flame fest. Oh well. I have to say. You shouldn't count jailbreaking as a feature. You should weigh the merits out of the box. As far as the iPhone, you shouldn't have to jailbreak or hack a phone to gain functionality.

    Everyone has their needs but I have to say, after my real world usage, it's, at the very least, a dead heat between the Droid and the iPhone.

    After 3 weeks with the Droid I don't miss my iPhone AT ALL. My only plan for my iPhone is to unlock it and use a prepaid sim when I travel overseas (I'm pretty sure that's possible, if not I'm not too worried).

    WTF? ... a jailbroken iPhone on Tmo? Oh well. TMo coverage is trash anyway.
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    Edited by DustyButt™ at 11/24/09 10:46 AM DustyButt™ was starred DustyButt™ was unstarred
    Image of jakemg jakemg
    11/24/09

    @DustyButt™: I have a MT3G on Tmobile, and have no problems with coverage in the Chicago area, but I take it you're referring to nationwide coverage. I guess that's true. The fact that I got my phone, which is useable, but not the best, for $40 when I wasn't even eligible for an upgrade softens the blow a bit.
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    Image of DustyButt™ DustyButt™
    11/24/09

    @jakemg: Yeah, I tried to refine and edit my comment but my work browser and this site really don't get along.

    Yes, Tmo national coverage is really bad for those who travel regionally.
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    matt,

    You really need an editor. The best smartphone on AT&T is a Jailbroken iPhone.
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    Honestly the CLIQ seems almost highway robbery at $100, compared with all the other Android phones out there. The more I see of the CLIQ, the less I like it. For myself, I can't stant the iPhone and I'd call an unlocked iPhone the best on T-Mo, if the CLIQ is its competition. The fact that it has 3G powers doesn't overshoot what the iPhone can do. Caveat: if the CLIQ is running Android 1.6, and thus qualifies for the new Maps app, then...maybe.

    Also: Droid for $150? Surprising and pleasing.
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    Image of fryhole fryhole
    11/24/09

    @OCEntertainment: T-Mobile's phone prices should always be followed by a *. Side by side the $200 Cliq looks [LUDA]crous next to the $150 Droid, but the phone is more expensive because the plans are so much cheaper. On Verizon an equivalent all-you-can-eat plan costs about $40 more per month.
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    OCEntertainment promoted this comment fryhole was starred fryhole was unstarred
    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    11/24/09

    @fryhole: Well, the CLIQ is actually $100 at the linked Wal-Mart site (if you don't mind dealing with the devil ;-)). But your point is well-taken.

    The thing to consider, though, is network quality. I've been pretty happy on T-Mobile for the most part. I don't get that great 3G reception in my house, but my building can account for a lot of that. When I travel Atlanta, I get pretty good 3G reception most of the time.

    However back when I was on Verizon and I took a trip around the U.S, I managed to get cell reception from underneath the Rocky Mountains. I traveled around 20 or 30 states, most of them drive-through states. I never lost reception. This may not be a typical need, but if you do a lot of traveling, or if you don't live in a (sub)urban area, that extra money may be more than worth it.
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    Image of fryhole fryhole
    11/24/09

    @OCEntertainment: There's no arguing with Verizon's network (please stop trying AT&T). I too am a former red head, but left after they just wouldn't get any phones I could stomach carrying. Of course, back then, you could buy European phones and have them work just the same as US phones on the T-mo network.

    And if you think you have network beef with T-Mobile, try going to college in Iowa where local wireless provider (read:shittastly awful) Iowa Wireless provides all of the T-Mobile service in rural areas. Sprint and Verizon both have 3G here, but what does i-wireless have? Edge. Sometimes. Ahhh Iowa...how frontwards you are with technology.
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    Image of Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier

    I'm pretty sure the Samsung M520 is the best phone you can get on sprint.
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    Image of UnderLoK UnderLoK
    11/24/09

    @Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo: Um... The Rant is better than that thing.
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    Image of AkkiRonin AkkiRonin
    11/24/09

    In reply to iPhone and Android Are Taking Over the (Mobile) Internet
    The droid is already 24% of the Android market?!
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    Image of BeyondtheTech BeyondtheTech
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Dumb iPhone That Thinks It's a MacBook
    After so many posts... For shame, all of you Apple fanboys, for not noticing that the Apple logo is upside-down.
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    Image of PN - gooapplesoft PN - gooapplesoft
    11/24/09

    In reply to Remainders - Stuff We Didn't Post (and Why)
    i can see why these didnt become posts but check this video out dan :

    [www.theonion.com]

    i put it in the tips as well.
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11/24/09

    In reply to Remainders - Stuff We Didn't Post (and Why)
    That live lawsuit was always on tenuous ground anyways. It's nice to see MS give people a big fuck you for that.
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    Edited by Nathan Obbards at 11/24/09 12:49 AM Nathan Obbards was starred Nathan Obbards was unstarred
    Image of Xagest Xagest
    11/23/09

    In reply to This Is How Multitasking Should Work On the iPhone
    As much as I want to support these developers, I can't get myself to throw down cash for their products. Because they're on a gray-market service, the support for the software could die at any moment.

    I mean, with a simple firmware update, a bunch of 3rd party software could stop working, and only the really dedicated will actually go back a fix it. There are still a lot of firmware 2.x software that I would love on my 3.x firmware, but alas, no equivalent exists.
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    Image of Gann Gann
    11/23/09

    In reply to This Is How Multitasking Should Work On the iPhone
    Multitasking is one of the main reasons I may switch to a Droid this holiday season.
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    Image of Roland_Deschain Roland_Deschain
    11/23/09

    @Gann: I picked a Droid up during the first weekend of sales and I can tell you I won't consider an iPhone until the same level of multitasking is available. I multitask and my battery life is still awesome.
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    Gann promoted this comment Roland_Deschain was starred Roland_Deschain was unstarred
    Image of Gann Gann
    11/24/09

    @Roland_Deschain: I'm trying to talk myself out of getting another iPhone. I dislike apple for many reasons, but that phone is just so damn fun to use. Kinda a weird question, but how does the Droid feel in your hand?
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    Image of Roland_Deschain Roland_Deschain
    11/24/09

    @Gann: I've gotten used to it, without a doubt. I've never had an iPhone, but I do have the most recent 32-gig iPod Touch, so I've used that UI (minus the phone) extensively. My iPod, and I assume a 3GS, has a bit more snap. So, I would say, does an Android device with the Sense UI. I'm hoping the December 11 update (if it happens) will speed things up a bit. The high-res screen on the Droid is beautiful. The physical keyboard isn't perfect, as you've heard, but it has its perks, and the landscape soft keyboard is great; easily comparable to my iPod touch in landscape mode. Honestly I was skeptical about the Droid, but it has completely paid off for me as a Verizon user in a family plan. Plus, Google integration is really well done: Gmail is great (a few minor flaws, of course) Google Voice right on my phone is amazing, maps, etc.

    The phone feels heavy, but in a good way. I love it so far.

    #tips
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