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Miracles: Mossberg Says Dell XPS One Is Better Machine than an iMac

Today, December 27 at 1:01AM EDT, The Supreme Pope of Tech Walter Mossberg has declared the Dell XPS One a better machine than the iMac. And yes, that sound you thought you dreamt was Steve Jobs screaming and Hell freezing over. The Dell XPS One comes "sightly ahead" of the iMac because of its design and hardware features, like the audio video controls or the built-in memory card readers:

It's the first Windows computer that I would put in the same class or even sightly ahead in terms of its hardware design

And if you think this is one of our Onionmodos, you can see The Mighty and Goateetastic Mossberg telling you all about it face to face. We had to watch the video twice:

His reasons are good, although I'm not so keen on the design of the Dell myself, which I find plain and vulgar. He's also right when he brings up two issues to declare that, overall, the Apple iMac still wins. First, he argues that Mac OS X Leopard is a faster and better operating system than Vista (most of us in the Giz agree on that one.) Then, he adds that the Dell is a more expensive machine than the iMac, which admits no denial: even while you add the same memory and wireless keyboard and mouse to the iMac price, the Dell XPS One is $100 more expensive than the Apple machines.

His overall verdict: best machine a Windows user can buy.

Next in the path to Apocalypse: David Pogue ditches his iPhone for a Windows Mobile Samsung, Brian Lam sells his MacBook and buys a Sony and random angel plays the fourth trumpet. [All Things D]

8:44 AM on Thu Dec 27 2007
By Jesus Diaz
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Comments

  • Wow, I rather have the Mac though..

  • Someone paid him off, obviously.

  • i half agree with him on the hardware, imac may not be as pretty with all kinds of extra connectors on it, but the extra connectors are nice. and os x is fantastic, so i have to agree with that part.

  • I tried to watch the video, but I fell asleep about 10 seconds in.

  • Image of yoshi yoshi at 09:05 AM on 12/27/07 *

    I dunno what to think. I run OS X Leopard and I have more problems with applications closing uexpectantly. I never had the isuess with OS X Tiger. The application with the most problems is iPhoto and Mail.

    Also, I run Windows Vista and it runs much better than Leopard.

    I think Apple needs to release a major update to fix alot of problems.

  • Don't forget to buy Gold Support.

  • Image of Jesus Diaz Jesus Diaz at 09:11 AM on 12/27/07 *

    @blomster: I wanted to edit it, but I'm sure Mossberg wouldn't have agreed with my cutting decisions and choice of background music.

  • I hate their big silver dell logo and the big silver-triangular stand neck. It shouldn't come with that retarded default wallpaper either. Sony is the closest in the PC world to figure it out.

  • I would have to agree with the guy this time. As much as the Apple gang would like to believe they are the hardware gods, Apple is, and always will be, about the combination of hardware & software. If you took windows or linux, and tied it to a specific set of hardware, I have no doubt you could make it just as good.

    That being said, on the hardware front alone, the Apple lineup is just OK. It's very pleasing to the eye, or sexy as some would say, but they have just as many QA issues as any other manufacturer. Take the XPS ONE and slap OSX on it, and put it beside an iMac....I would take the XPS one hands down every time.

    @YOSHI
    Having used leopard for awhile on a friends machines I was customizing, I would have to agree with you. Jaguar and Tiger felt progressively leaner & meaning that previous releases..Leopard seems to be all glitz, and just feels a bit sluggish in comparison to Tiger in it's later releases. By 10.5.7 it could be all good, but I think they pulled it out of the oven a tad bit early.

  • I would have enjoyed reading this on the front page but for a big flash Canon ad blocking the majority of the article. Firefox 2.0.0.11.

  • Before all you Windows/PC drones wet yourselves, please read the review before commenting. The iMac still is the chosen one.

    "I still recommend the iMac over the XPS One for several reasons other than hardware design. First, there's the software. I believe Apple's operating system, Leopard, is superior to the new Windows Vista operating system, the only choice on the XPS One. In my tests, a reboot of the XPS One took more than twice as long as a reboot of the iMac.

    And I regard Apple's built-in software, especially the iLife multimedia suite, as superior to the Dell's built-in software, which includes a group of Adobe multimedia programs that are less well integrated and more complex.

    The XPS One, unlike the iMac, also came with a bunch of craplets - trial software like Yahoo Music and come-ons for online services like NetZero.

    Second, the iMac, unlike the Dell, is immune to the vast majority of malicious software floating around, so you don't have to run annoying, memory-hogging security programs. The first time I turned on the beautiful Dell I was met with a warning that I had "multiple security problems," and was led to install a security suite in a complex and tedious process.

    Third, defying popular perception, the iMac costs less than the XPS One. The base, 20-inch iMac costs $1,199 - about $300 less. And even if you double the memory, and add a wireless keyboard and mouse to match the Dell, it's still $1,399 - $100 less than the base XPS One (though Dell is currently running a sale that wipes out the $100 gap). Even the cheapest iMac has a dedicated video card with its own memory, something the base XPS One lacks.

    Plus, while Dell offers only 20-inch screens on the XPS One, Apple has higher-end iMacs with huge 24-inch screens for the same price, or less, than the higher-end Dells.

    Still, if you want a stylish Windows Vista machine that runs well and won't cost a fortune, the XPS One fits the bill, despite its unlikely heritage."

  • After years of helping friends with their NASTY PC machines infested with God knows what, I will never go back to a windows based machine or recommend one to a friend or family. I even tell them, if you buy a PC do not call me for help.

  • i was checking out the options for building the dell xps one...am i correct that you can't upgrage the video card or RAM? because it wasn't an option other than what they've set up already

  • @BostonPimpDaddy: you act as though you got an STD from it lol

  • @yoshi:
    Did a mac user actually say that Vista runs better than Leopard? Now hell is definitely freezing over!


  • Steve Jobs will not stop attacking any person or company working with Bill Gates until his last breath on earth.

  • @The_Raven:
    I'm curious as to why you didn't state who wrote that review. Could it have been a random review you found from a public forum...or worse yet, you? And you put quotation marks around it to make it look professional. Correct me if I am wrong, but it looks like in the paragraph about the price that since Dell is running a sale, that both machines cost the same (sure, when you add a wireless mouse and keyboard to the Mac...but you should add it when comparing it to a Dell that has the same thing). I'm not bashing the iMac, just don't know what the big fuss is...Both will fulfill your needs, just depends on what your needs are.


  • I don't think that on the software side, Windows should be compared to Apple's OS. Why? Despite what others say, there really isn't a "better" OS - it all boils down to preference between these two systems. Now, what you CAN bring up on the software side is the inclusion of Craplets and trial software - that is a legit criticism.

  • @yoshi: I've noticed that too when I upgraded to Leopard. However, I mostly run the Pro Apps, and I've noticed a dramatic speed increase with Final Cut, Motion, Soundtrack and the Adobe Creative Suite. I figured Mail would have many problems considering the drastic overhaul they did, but I can live with that, as long as the programs I use 95% of the time work properly. And they do...

  • Leopard People...I was having a bit of the same sluggishness problems as y'all...
    loading was fast, but then with a few programs open, everything starts to freeze up.
    However, I only had 1GB RAM.
    After a little bump to 2GB, everything was much faster than tiger, even when running 10 or so programs.
    I think this has to do with Leopard's more efficient use of RAM.
    Do y'alls have 1GB or more?

  • I really dont know how to react to this. There are things that I like about the XPS one, but I think, and for the same reasons apple WONT do it; that if they made OSX for whitebox PCs, I'd be all over the XPS one. It has nice hardware, granted, but the software is what does it for me. I own the baseline iMac, with an upgraded HDD to 500GB and 4GB of ram, and it still cost me less than the baseline XPS would have. And seeing as the CPU in the base imac is the T7300, and the XPS has the e4500(sic), That is another blow to Dell.

  • IF you believe Mossberg as much as the guy himself believes himself, then sure, his opinion is worth something.

  • The video was just painful to sit through, they needed to show more PC less crazy old man.

  • @bueller929:
    If you watched the video you should have thought the comments sounded vaguely familiar. It's simply the written version from Mossberg's WSJ column!

  • meh... I'd rather build my own PC which outperforms the 'Dell XPS One' and the latest 'iMac' for half the price... and as a bonus I can actually upgrade it!

  • Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead at 10:48 AM on 12/27/07 *

    The XPS One is a good-looking package, but the iMac is still a better deal overall, IMO.

  • @bueller929: Are you kidding? He is quoting the video, didn't you watch it?

  • @The_Raven: I love how you call the iMac "the Chosen One".

  • @teamlouish: @psyche41:
    fair enough..no, it's obvious I didn't watch it. the first 5 seconds put me to sleep. It looks like I made the right decision after reading what he said. My apologies to The_Raven...thank you for sparing me those 7 minutes.


  • I use both PC's and Mac's and find that the best designed PC's (think Sony Viaos or the Samsung/LG PC's sold in the Korean market) still pale in comparison with Mac. The reason is that the PC manufacturers seem to think that by adding on a bit of whiz-bang, such as using a piano finish or some futuristic looking lights, makes for good design but nevertheless, design remains an afterthought. Macs by comparison would not look out of place displayed at the MOMA. Remember, Leonardo DaVinci said that "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication".

  • @BostonPimpDaddy: Amen brother.

  • It's fun what Walt says, it's only that the CPU of every intel mac was designed on a pc, and every thing that Walt uses like his clothes, shoes, tv, car, house, toothbrush, airplane, watch, glasses, newspapers, dishes, and so on, was designed on a Windows PC, not a useless OS like the OSX.

  • Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide at 11:12 AM on 12/27/07 *

    @The_Raven: for someone proporting a hardware/software company that doesn't allow end users to build their own machines from the ground up you've got a lot of never refering to the opposite camp as 'drones'

  • @The_Raven: Wet myself? Nah, this just confirms what I always knew, its all about the software in this day and age. Apple can try to justify the need for their hardware all they want, but it doesn't hold water.

  • @Aneurism: Exactly, still I think the argument here is pre-built computer vs pre-built computer. Which in that case, I would have to agree.

  • Who the hell is Walt Mossberg? The only time I've ever seen or heard of this guy is on this site and another I frequent. ...yes, I know who he is but if he didn't keep appearing here or on Engadget I wouldn't give him a second thought. The man is older than me, and that's pretty damn old... what could he possibly have to say about any tech that I can't figure out for myself.

    An east coast bias in tech reporting I guess.

    Seriously, outside of NY, who the hell reads the NY Times????

  • Are you kidding me? The Times are great (though I completely agree with your comments about Mossberg).

  • My mom bought a Dell WebPC back in 2000. Dell pulled the plug on it like 6 months later. I then upgraded it to XP and half the hardware stopped working due to lack of drivers. Dell refused to support me running XP on it. I will never buy another all in one Dell. Dell does not know how to make a good one. Apple's quality and support are lightyears ahead of Dell.

  • @analyticalmind84: Windows IS an STD

    LOL

  • Image of yoshi yoshi at 11:44 AM on 12/27/07 *

    @Tommasta:

    yea... I've noticed the speed difference in Leopard. It's faster.

    Also, not only does iPhoto and Mail crash none my printers work either.

    I am trying to figure this crap out but no luck.

  • Based on the idea that this is the best Windows machine to buy - congrats to Dell. It's about time that a PC manufacturer releases a product that actually looks appealing. The computing experience is rapidly becoming just as much about the aestetics as it is about it's utility.

    BTW, I say this as an Apple fanboy with a Dual 2.7 Ghz G5/20" Cinema Display, a 15" Macbook Pro, an iPhone, and a 30 gig iPod.

  • He works for the Wall Street Journal providing technical expertise and opinion. Why then would they produce a report where the camera is focused on the wall behind you, with your face in shadow, a hot-spot reflection is on your head, and three door knobs are in the background. I've seen better home videos from 1985.

  • face it, apple can't make good softwares, only good software of OSX is fundamentally not their own work, and getting slower and slower, older and older, comparing to the development of linuxand now its hardware quality control is going down the toilet.

    Mac OSX's patch is hidious, from 0.0.0 to 0.0.4, it gets better, afterwards, all patches are focused on holes, and eventually make the system slower and slower.

  • Mossberg's video looks like it was done by a twelve-year-old in a garage, and yet he's supposed to be the sage of tech, master of Macs, and works for a solvent company like Dow Jones? And he's giving out style advice? Whew.

    You see, Goatberg, there's this thing called lighting. Have you heard of it? There's another thing called editing.

    These columnists do themselves a disservice in producing videos: print conceals a thousand blemishes, but video shows what silly dorks they are. Can't wait to see them in high-def.

  • All I know is when you wrote "Goateetastic Mossberg" I saw "Goatsetastic Mossberg."

    Please, for my sake if no one else's, don't ever use that phrase again.

  • I would never buy a Dell regardless of how cool the machine is: they don't honor their warranties. The last Dell I bought broke and they refused to replace the defective hard disk drive, even though my machine was covered by an expensive warranty extension. Dell used to have great service; now it is orders of magnitude below Apple's. For me service beats aesthetics.

  • Since when does Bill Gates always lose? Maybe to Walt Mossberg, but other than that...

    @BostonPimpDaddy: No. LOL

  • I heard 11.99 and 14.99. Cheap.

  • @jesusdiaz: No problem. I'm harshing on boring Walt, not your coverage. Can't you just make your own video with the music or your choice and starring an attractive young lady with an accent?
    ;)

  • @yoshi:

    Did you do an upgrade or a clean install. I won't go into iphoto or mail issues because I don't use them, but on a whole Leopard runs much better on all the macs in our department, g4's-present. For us it was finder in tiger that was always crashing when dealing with our large file server, and it flys in leopard.

  • @PRO7: Apparently, you've never visited the following website:

    [www.apple.com]

  • @Shabbis: Hmh, I heard about Apple. They apparently make beautiful phones and mp3 players. their phones and computers seem to be fashion, and nothing else.

  • Talk to me after your 1st virus Mossy

  • My four year old iBook runs Leopard without a hitch while my wife's (same vintage) Dell can barely boot in to XP and there's no way she'd get Vista to run on it. My kids- they're both dying to get their hands on a MacBook. You can keep yer Dell's, even though they're just down the freeway from us- I'll stick to my Macs thanks.

  • Could you make the word "slightly" a bit bolder? some people might not notice its importance and actually think that its a lot better.

  • anyone else notice that Mossberg's intro music is a Garageband loop?

  • Macs aren't all fashion. After seeing about 30 electronic bands perform live I've only seen one or two of them using a Windows laptop. All the rest were using Apple powerbooks or Macbook pros.

    There's a reason Apple doesn't put card readers on the device. In the lifespan of a laptop new formats come and go. Having 5 slots for various cards and then not having the slot for the one card you do use is pointless.

    While USB readers are a pain, at least you can buy the correct reader for your media. Having a built in useless card reader is really annoying.