Whoooo hoo SP1! Wait a minute I still use XP, where is SP3?

Why don't I keep my eyes on THIS blog? Are you saying you wont be slathering us in posts all day about what's good with the update, what the future may hold, how this will affect everyone, etc etc?

Oh yeah.. This isn't put out by Apple.

Don't leave us Windows folks in the cold anymore Giz, pretty please?

@Neight: There may be a follow-up article.

Does anyone have it yet? It probably is as you say "turd polish". All I know is I'm not touching it with a 10 foot pole. I will continue to use xp. Damnit I wish Apple got serious with pc gaming. I would have bought a mac already.

I just checked Windows Update and I don't see SP1....

@Kaiser-Machead: yeah but only one if any

@Neight: You're just saying what many of us are thinking.

Gizmodo being all-inclusive with their "enthusiasms" would lend balance and perhaps actually bring more folks here.
(and more importantly keep 'em coming back and _CLICKING_)

I hope we get some follow-ups by other folks who have installed and experienced Vista SP1 and care to share the ups and downs of it with us.

I'm also in the XP camp curious about XP SP3, but will gladly read about Vista developments in the mean time.
Even the minutiae.

Some people can't tell SP1 from Shine-ola....

Downloading.

435MB damn. Any english any downloads?

What do you guys want from giz, honestly? SP1 is a bunch of bugfixes and small changes that are almost entirely under the hood. In fact from what I've read the biggest cosmetic change is the removal of a lot of the ultimate extras text which makes sense given MS' nonexistent support for the distro (or whatever they call it). You can't possibly expect gizmodo to plop out 4839 articles extolling the virtues of a better file transfer dialog can you?

This post written by one of the 12 MS fanboys dedicated enough to own a zune.

I see the official download at the download center, but only for x64 based systems. Is there a 32 bit download?

Downloading it just now.

[www.microsoft.com]

MS could probably make more money if they gave away 1.0 for any new OS and then once you make the jump, extort thousands for SP1. I'm just say'n.

@olternaut:
As they say, you know what you get on your hands when you do try to polish a turd......

I'm just not sure how long is long enough. I'm no windows fan-boi but I do use XP sometimes. XP was a horrible (worse than it currently is if possible) opsys when it first came out, and while people didn't seem to criticize it quite as much as Vista, it seems just like XP, if enough time passes and enough patches SPs come out, this might be a viable opsys. I'm just not sure when is the right time to try actually putting it to the test; especially considering the price. That being said it seems like it was more than a year after XP came out that I tried actually experimenting with it.

As others have said, its like the first reports on Vista were SOOOOO bad, that even after fixes came out for major issues, they weren't reported on, and Vista continued to get a horrible wrap. Sounds like the same way 98/ME went; and we all know how that debacle ended.

@AlexLand:
Have you reviewed the posts from the iPhone release?
Were you around for it?

There wasn't an inconsequential piece of minutiae that was left unposted by Gizmodo.
People bitch about CES, but I think the iPhone "coverage" did far worse for the image of this site over the long haul.

"What do you guys want from giz, honestly?"

A little more balance, maybe a little more objectivity when it comes to stuff they aren't personally involved with.
You can be hip and still be balanced.

Besides, you can always "filter out" the windows stuff, right?
Just like everyone who doesn't like to read about the Apple stuff can do.

Balance.

Ya mean just like Apple did with the Touch firmware upgrades. Really hope that model of pay to update doesn't catch on.

@AlexLand:
Well considering there are 2538 posts on gizmodo referencing Microsoft and 4938 posts on gizmodo referencing Apple. Its pretty safe to say that Giz is all about giving Uncle Stevie digital orgasms.

Vista had 'performance and reliability issues'? - who knew!

LMMacAO!!

@MINI Driver:

I'm tempted to bring back my Kaiser-SensibleComputerUser username back.

@MINI Driver:

Can we please give the "LMMacAO" on ever mac or windows post a break? It was somewhat clever the first 30 times, but now it just seems stale.

@ Luuey
Absolutely perfectly said. Giz doesn't get it. The bias is so obvious. I don't know what's worse, the bias itself, or the complete disregard Giz has toward everyone who can't stand it anymore.

although to be fair i invoked it... but to be even fairer, it was only to make fun of mini driver yesterday:

"Vista? What the fuck is Vista?

Ubuntu, son.

just to make fun of Mini Driver:

LMLinuxAO "

People if you really love Msft you have to speak up otherwise they will never fix anything, my opinion vista is getting worst & worst they need to Fire a few people and start fresh, Heck money is not a problem for them so why not Hire the best. It really is a shame how they have a few top level VPs using just OS X and just coming out & saying how much they love it

@F. BOTI: I thought they were already selling the windows XP SP3 verison.
I was thinking about downgrading to XP just to check how it runs with 2.5GB ram.
Just for experiment purposes. I guess my computer has already restart because i left it on. Hopefully it hasnt i was downloading something.

I got banned from commenting when I said Gizmodo was a Apple fanboy site! Now everyone knows it!

@chinook11:

I agree whole heartedly and I know we aren't alone. I find myself slowly moving more to refreshing other sites nonstop because I know I'll get a more unbiased blogging. I absolutely love the humor and fan base here, but I read also for content.

I still use XP and find it hysterical the people that call it crap. I haven't seen a blue screen in many many years and ahven't had any problems opening any file or attaching any peripheral. It's a SOLID operating system geared towards those who want to do things the way they want it and have an overload of methods to do it. This factoid is brought to you from experience and not what I've read on the interwebs.

A polished turd is still better than an unpolished turd....

I wonder if my cracked version of Windows SP2 will be able to upgrade to SP3 :P

@Neight: Well put.

@Kaiser-Machead: If it's everything it's cracked up to be it should. ;)

@nutbastard:

Oh please! Give me a break - I didn't even bother commenting on the Vista TP post yesterday which was wide open for hours of MS toilet humor!

Guy comes up with a decent tag line and then you want to gag him, or worse, try to mutate it into something tragically unfunny...

@olternaut: I've had it for weeks...although, even though it *is* the RTM version, I had to get it through less...official means. It's certainly an improvement. My average RAM use (out of 2GB RAM) after startup dropped from ~40% to ~30%, for example.

There's beta/RC versions of XP SP3 out there, too, if ya know where to look.

My whole entertainment infrastructure is based on XP MCE. Dare I say my raison d'etre is Windows XP? But, XP I know. I sort of appreciate all the Mac stuff I see on Giz. Brings some balance into my life.

Bring on XP SP3.

@all complaining...
Isn't it their site? Don't they choose themselves what articles to post? Isn't it true that when you don't like what you read... you go elsewhere...? I have 0 (zero, none, nada) products from apple and I just mostly skip the apple stuff.
It's true, when there is the slightest thing "new" on apple stuff, there's an article on giz about it. So what?

So basically what you're saying is: "if you want to know anything regarding the newest update for Vista, fuck off"? Nice.

these windows users never stop the bitching. Even when Gizmodo puts up a windows post, they STILL bitch.

On topic, I hope SP1 solves a lot of the issues. I'm eager to add it to boot camp for dev purposes.

@Kaiser-Machead: They'll probabaly intorduce another iteration of Genuine Advantage to go with it, and if you can't crack that yourself, wait a month and someone else will post it online.

@nutbastard: your comments still make me crack up. every time haha

@MINI Driver:
Decent tagline or not, these things have a lifespan. And yours is approaching geriatric territory. Won;t be long now til LMMacAO is shitting itself and forgetting it's own address, and is finally put to rest when it plows through a crowded flea market in a pristine, late '80s american tankmobile.

@Rhainor: Microsoft isn't exactly hiding the Windows XP SP3 Release Candidate:
[www.microsoft.com]

For people who have been using Windows for more than 2 years, XP is an upgrade from Vista, not a downgrade.

Although XP SP3 supposedly offers snappier performance, XP SP3 is said to address "compatibility issues" with Vista. That does not bode well for XP. Prepare for app, driver, and peripheral breakage.

@nutbastard:
woop there it is

@nutbastard:

I should be charging you a license fee for every time you've used it - then I could retire and dedicate my time to helping with my new 'Victims Of Microsoft IT' foundation.

Care to help me clean up some Vista VOMIT?

@Neight: Dude you're my new hero. That is exactly what I was thinking. Microsoft releases something, gizmoso just shrugs. Apple releases something, they write 5 posts about it BEFORE its released (anticipation stage) 10 posts once its been released (review, manhandle, testing, etc stage) and a couple after.

And when in the world does a blog actually recommend going to ANOTER BLOG instead of just getting your info from the BLOG you first found it out from

If you don't like the way Giz posts...then DON'T READ!

@nutbastard: I for one welcome our new service packed overlords.

Installed without incident in ~20 minutes for me. RAM use is down 7-10% on average from the OS (Ultimate-32), and it fixed some of the problems I'd had frequently: my USB flash drive now ejects properly when I "Safely Remove" it using the icon in the system tray (before, this would only work from an Explorer Window for some reason), and HL2.exe no longer crashes out when I quit from Team Fortress 2. File copying is faster, but I haven't noticed any big performance changes otherwise, probably because I didn't have any issues with performance in the first place.

@vicsells: Looking to Giz for objective information about select Microsoft products is always going to be fruitless. I recommend Paul Thurrott if you're ever looking for detailed (and excitable) information regarding Windows.

did anybody complaining about the vista sp1 non-coverage by giz actually look at the windows site about it?

i've looked and can't decipher anything beyond, bug-fixes, enhanced stability, yadda yadda.

there doesn't seem to be really much to say other than what they've said honestly. its not like they added new widgets or apps to the OS.