Before I jump on this, anyone got any advice for just how badly the lack of hard drive affects gameplay? I've been eying a 360 for a while and I doubt I'll get in the game (pun totally intended) cheaper than this....but that lack of hard drive.... #xbox
@OCEntertainment: It doesn't affect gameplay since there are no (mandatory) installs for games. You'll just have little room for saves and profiles and no room for demos/downloads. You could always just use the $100 credit to buy a HD. #xbox
@OCEntertainment: Original Xbox support is about the only thing vital to having a hard drive for. Anything else you can makeup for with a memory card, but that thing will run out of space pretty soon if you download much. #xbox
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The hard drive is more useful for DLC packages like The Ballad of Gay Tony and such, and video you can download from Live. You can pick up hard drives cheap on ebay right now. 20 gig will run you 30 bucks, 60 gig's go for 50-60 bucks. #xbox
I got the X Box deal at Wal-Mart about 25 minutes ago. Just walked in and got one. No waiting. My friend showed up 5 minutes later and picked one up as well. No one even knew about it in my home town.
Apparently they were letting people buy multiple items as one person had 5 laptops in their cart.
I guess they finally wised up the fact that people were using the ol' hairdryer-on-the-warranty-seal trick to repair their boxes themselves without voiding the 3 year RRoD warranty. When the dvd drive went out on mine a month after the 1 year standard warrant ran out, I purchased an OEM replacement off ebay for 30 bucks and went in there like Zohan. After 45 minutes, my trusty box was booting up Halo 3, and no one was the wiser. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
I'm assuming this was done to crack down on people who were buying broken boxes, refurbishing them, and selling them as used but never broken. This is a problem in the auto industry as well, when wrecked cars that were never officially listed as "totaled" are purchased by disreputable garages, then repaired and sold with clean titles, instead of the "rebuilt" titles the law requires. #xbox360warrantyseal
N is great but no one should buy this. I bought the Netgear wnhde111 wireless N bridge kit for $85 on ebay. This gives 2 devices that can be used as access points routers or bridges and a spare port for my PS3. #xbox360wirelessnnetworkingadapter
@Xeno: To the properly informed tech geek that's a hell of a deal. Your average 12 year old parent wouldn't know what the hell to do with the kit though. Thus the overpriced N adapter is born. #xbox360wirelessnnetworkingadapter
@tok3ninja: The thing is that with the netgear kit you just flip a switch to auto on both units and plug them in and it works. They are really simple, I only customized the setup cus' I'm a geek. #xbox360wirelessnnetworkingadapter
Another sad example of Microsoft copying from Apple - this time, stealing the "why build it in when we can charge separately for the parts" strategy. #xbox360wirelessnnetworkingadapter
Well, if it's anything like the stickers on a linksys router, careful use of a DE safety razor blade can remove it intact. As someone who pulls the thread out of money, I know what I'm talking about. #xbox360warrantysticker
@newgalactic: They did that with the first-gen XBox. Need to unban your console? Swap the EEPROM and hard drive from another console. (the hard drive unlock key is in the 'PROM so you have to swap the drive with it, too. #xbox
Hardware banning is total bullshit. It ensures that the resale value of the consoles go in the toilet, and in turn makes for a greater amount of sales of new hardware. The "risk" of repeat offenders returning to Live is also bullshit, because no doubt anyone seriously addicted to the service will return on a new XBox anyway.
Hardware support is a different issue entirely. Questionable to non-existent warranty support is naturally inherent to buying used electronics, but the online service should not be inextricably tied to the device's warranty.
This has been the policy since BEFORE the initial Xbox Live rollout in 2002. The beta testers (myself included) got a ban for mod chips. The Xbox was flagged, even if the mod was removed, it was banned.
Same thing held true with Softmods. I know there are more reasons for a ban now, but the policy has always been once a unit was banned, you could not unban it. #xbox
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The hard drive is more useful for DLC packages like The Ballad of Gay Tony and such, and video you can download from Live. You can pick up hard drives cheap on ebay right now. 20 gig will run you 30 bucks, 60 gig's go for 50-60 bucks. #xbox
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I'm assuming this was done to crack down on people who were buying broken boxes, refurbishing them, and selling them as used but never broken. This is a problem in the auto industry as well, when wrecked cars that were never officially listed as "totaled" are purchased by disreputable garages, then repaired and sold with clean titles, instead of the "rebuilt" titles the law requires. #xbox360warrantyseal
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Not that there's a huge market for re-enabled xbox 360's. And it would probably take forever. But it would be kinda cool. #xbox
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Hardware support is a different issue entirely. Questionable to non-existent warranty support is naturally inherent to buying used electronics, but the online service should not be inextricably tied to the device's warranty.
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Same thing held true with Softmods. I know there are more reasons for a ban now, but the policy has always been once a unit was banned, you could not unban it. #xbox