Zack Snyder Wants You to 'Wake the Fuck Up' and Accept that Batman Kills People

Zack Snyder at San Diego Comic-Con.
Zack Snyder at San Diego Comic-Con.
Image: Kevin Winter (Getty)

Let’s start by reminding ourselves that the Snyder Cut doesn’t exist and even if it did, it wouldn’t make Justice League any less of a terrible movie. With all of that in mind, Zack Snyder would like everyone to make their peace with the fact that the DCEU’s Batman has killed people, and nothing short of a universe-altering turn of events is going change that.


While answering audience questions about Watchmen during a recent event (that was filmed and posted to Reddit), Snyder described how fans still come up to him with gripes about the dark tone of his DC superhero movies, and the fact that both Batman and Superman have killed people. While Snyder understands where people’s objections come from, he added that he really wishes everyone would “wake the fuck up” and move on already:

Once you’ve lost your virginity to this fucking movie and then you come and say to me something about like ‘my superhero wouldn’t do that.’ I’m like ‘Are you serious?’ I’m like down the fucking road on that.

It’s a cool point of view to be like ‘my heroes are still innocent. My heroes didn’t fucking lie to America. My heroes didn’t embezzle money from their corporations. My heroes didn’t commit any atrocities.’ That’s cool. But you’re living in a fucking dream world.

Regardless of how you feel about Snyder’s films, the director has a point, given that, on the whole, studios tend to skew more “realistic” with their live-action adaptations of comic books. That means that certain characters like Batman who’ve always been rather brutal fighters might end up killing people depending on how a film or show plays out. Even if there isn’t something as jarring as seeing Batman let a bunch of people get hit by a car, the chaos and destruction that’s featured in these movies results in hundreds if not thousands of people (human or otherwise) dying, and so the point is rather moot.

Sure, Batman doesn’t kill in the comics, and that’s all very nice—but nitpicking about him killing in the films is literally one of the least interesting things to waste your time doing.

[h/t CBR]

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Charles Pulliam-Moore is an NYC-based culture critic whose work centers on fandom, pop culture, politics, race, and sexuality. He still thinks Cyclops made a few valid points.


Angrier Geek

First off, this man is such a dick. For him to take a miniscule amount of instances throughout an 80-year history and trying to gaslight people by insisting this was the dominant theme is complete and utterly disingenuous bullshit.

Yes, Batman & Robin flat out killed people in the beginning. No Batman didn’t run around with twin .45's like The Phantom (that was one image from a splash page exactly once) though he did kill a vampire with a gun and used machine guns in his plane. Superman didn’t deliberately kill anyone in the beginning, but he’d let you die trying to kill him (manslaughter? grave indifference to life). Then an editorial edict came down that they could no longer kill, which Superman was famous for (there were literally plots built around this) but up until Crisis Batman acknowledged having taken life. It’s only post Crisis that he was “No killing ever” and Superman got the blood of the Kryptonian criminals on his and. I believe now post-Rebirth they’re both completely clean in that respect.

But seriously Snyder is a dick.